GDT - August 7, 2018 - Game 2 of 2 - 7:05 @ Nationals

wowbobwow said:
Howdee Kurt has been missing a lot of Phat pitches lately. If we're not gonna get a true cleanup hitter, really need one of these catchers to get hot at the plate again at some point
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Gotta find a way to get Realmuto without giving away the farm.
 
The late 80s/early 90s were a different era. Different strike zone (could get more calls off the plate), and pitching down in the zone actually did matter then. Today however, you have hitters that can crush down pitches, the Wiz of Oz being one of them.

If Allard is going to succeed, he's going to have to figure something else out or gain Cliff Lee like control.

Our guys that may be breaking out turned 25 this summer, and will turn 27 this year but still, if Allard can't figure something else out, in today's era where you have to get in the zone more and have guys that can crush down pitches, he's at most a backend guy. A lot of the other prospects aren't here yet.
 
GeorgiaGirl said:
The late 80s/early 90s were a different era. Different strike zone (could get more calls off the plate), and pitching down in the zone actually did matter then. Today however, you have hitters that can crush down pitches, the Wiz of Oz being one of them.

If Allard is going to succeed, he's going to have to figure something else out or gain Cliff Lee like control.

Our guys that may be breaking out turned 25 this summer, and will turn 27 this year but still, if Allard can't figure something else out, in today's era where you have to get in the zone more and have guys that can crush down pitches, he's at most a backend guy. A lot of the other prospects aren't here yet.
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Don't disagree and I wasn't saying that any of our current crop of guys may ever win 305 games, be a WS MVP, etc. I'm just saying young pitchers almost always struggle no matter how talented they are. The adage used to be you want one of three solid starts for a first year pitcher and two of three for a second year guy. At this point, I've seen nothing that would definitively say our "young guns" are behind schedule. [Allard, of course, is another matter as I've seen nothing from him from which I can be reasonably optimistic at this point.]
 
striker42 said:
I still think probably 40% of major Leaguers juice. Just much harder to detect these days.
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at least that many, and might be WAY more than that... I was told 4 or 5 yrs ago by a very senior level member of a MLB front office that he thought it was even more prevalent than the late 90s & early 2000s. I believe the direct quote was something along the lines of "almost everyone is using, and there may come a time when a scandal hits that will scar the credibility of game forever" ... the science and bio-technology now is so far ahead of the testing, and I might be mistaken, but I don't think the union allows blood testing at all
 
wowbobwow said:
at least that many, and might be WAY more than that... I was told 4 or 5 yrs ago by a very senior level member of a MLB front office that he thought it was even more prevalent than the late 90s & early 2000s. I believe the direct quote was something along the lines of "almost everyone is using, and there may come a time when a scandal hits that will scar the credibility of game forever" ... the science and bio-technology now is so far ahead of the testing, and I might be mistaken, but I don't think the union allows blood testing at all
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If it was revealed 99% of players juice, I would not be surprised. It's a choice between millions of dollars and working at Sears. It's not a hard decision.
 
So Snit double switched Albies in now? He lets Dansby hit and then pulls him when we could actually use his defense at short in a close game. If you’re going to do that, just pinch hit for him. So now the defensive has declined for basically no gain?
 
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