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Krgrecw said:
If you believe anything Putin says, you’re an idiot. They’ve already broken multiple ceasefires. Putin is a ruthless piece of ****, why you continuously stick up for him baffles me.
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There was a never a war the Neo-Cons didn't want to run to.

Enjoy continuing to support positions that will lead to countless dead.

I notice you didn't want to opine on my theoretical of the CCP putting a base on our border.
 
thethe said:
There was a never a war the Neo-Cons didn't want to run to.

Enjoy continuing to support positions that will lead to countless dead.
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Countless dead? What do you think is happening now and will continue to happen.



Biden is a pussy and Russia is making America look like pussies. Putin wouldn’t have done this under Trump. Why is that?
 
Krgrecw said:
Countless dead? What do you think is happening now and will continue to happen.



Biden is a pussy and Russia is making America look like pussies. Putin wouldn’t have done this under Trump. Why is that?
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I'm supporting a position that I believe will lead to less people dead with the same outcomes.

It did not happen under Trump very simply because he didn't have a Globalist agenda driven by the party of Davos. He also would not have given Putin $130 a barrel oil. And he wouldn't support positions that would lead the Ukraine to join the EU or NATO which is the exact opposite of what the Biden regime is doing.
 
America could easily put up a no fly zone over Ukraine and give Russia soldiers 24 hours to pull back. After 24 hours, America could easily destroy Russian forces and repel the invasion with bombs coming from neighboring countries and battleships, There wouldn’t be any American military boots on the ground.
 
thethe said:
I'm supporting a position that I believe will lead to less people dead with the same outcomes.

It did not happen under Trump very simply because he didn't have a Globalist agenda driven by the party of Davos. He also would not have given Putin $130 a barrel oil. And he wouldn't support positions that would lead the Ukraine to join the EU or NATO which is the exact opposite of what the Biden regime is doing.
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He didn’t do it under trump because he ‘respected’ Trump. He knew trump wasn’t a pussy. It has nothing to do with some globalist agenda or Davos. Power respects power.

If Ukraine wanted to join the eu or nato that’s thier choice.
 
Krgrecw said:
America could easily put up a no fly zone over Ukraine and give Russia soldiers 24 hours to pull back. After 24 hours, America could easily destroy Russian forces and repel the invasion with bombs coming from neighboring countries and battleships, There wouldn’t be any American military boots on the ground.
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Ukraine would be absolutely devastated in this situation. A no-fly zone is inviting an open conflict that could go anywhere.
 
thethe said:
Ukraine would be absolutely devastated in this situation. A no-fly zone is inviting an open conflict that could go anywhere.
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Actually Ukraine wouldn’t be devastated, and there’d be no open conflict because the Russian military is a joke. They can’t even take Ukraine and you’re worried they may attack someone else?
 
nsacpi said:
Yes. My take. Cliff notes version.

1) Ukraine has long struggled to free itself of a corrupt, kleptocratic ruling class that features many of the same characteristics of Putin's Russia.

2) As an aside, it should be noted that Pavel Manafartov had a lucrative long-standing business helping this kleptocratic ruling class maintain its hold on power.

3) Lo and behold, the Ukrainian people (with great difficulty and in ways that remain imperfect and incomplete) have made a start in their arduous efforts to move away from that model

4) This is intolerable to Vlad the Bad

5) The threat of a successful, democratic, western-oriented Ukraine looms so large in Vlad the Bad's grievance-filled and paranoid brain that he decided to embark upon this disastrous and yes oppressive AND tyrannical invasion. It is uniquely oppressive AND tyrannical because it sees Ukraine moving toward a more liberal system of government (like say Australia, Canada and New Zealand to toss out a few rando names) as a mortal threat to Putinist Russsia that has to be crushed at all costs.
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How did I know there would be a weak attempt to tie Trump in somewhere in this?
 
Krgrecw said:
Actually Ukraine wouldn’t be devastated, and there’d be no open conflict because the Russian military is a joke. They can’t even take Ukraine and you’re worried they may attack someone else?
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You do understand that Russias cyber capabilities are arguably the most advanced in the world right? To just dismiss them as not being able to inflict damage in a direct conflict or in cyber space is irresponsible.
 
thethe said:
How can you even pretend that the laptop isn't a real thing and showed that the Ukrainian impeachment was a bunch of garbage?

Its not "if" the dirt existed. Its whether or not Zelensky wanted to out the corruption and just like Ukrainian fashion he decided not to.
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His news sources didn't cover it. And yes, any argument or meme that throws dirt at Trump for trying to get the Biden Cartel's activities in Ukraine investigated should either include the knowledge that Trump was right, or be ignored as propaganda.
 
Jaw said:
His news sources didn't cover it. And yes, any argument or meme that throws dirt at Trump for trying to get the Biden Cartel's activities in Ukraine investigated should either include the knowledge that Trump was right, or be ignored as propaganda.
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i see your bolding of my post and raise you one

i guess in your own fashion you are trying to imply that there is some sort of equivalence

the lord's work is never done
 
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Even after all that, Trump asking Zelensky to be an honorable Statemen/Person while knowing the 'dirt' existed, he STILL gave all the aid that was promised despite Zelensky proving to be just another cog in the 'International Rules Based Order', or whatever way is the fancy way of saying the Party of Davos that openly push for a 'Great Reset'.
 
Biden bans the import of Russian oil into the US. Political theater largely as the Russian imports account for only 8% of US oil imports. Doesn't help oil prices though.
 
striker42 said:
Biden bans the import of Russian oil into the US. Political theater largely as the Russian imports account for only 8% of US oil imports. Doesn't help oil prices though.
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8% of US Oil consumption is a nice inflow for the Kremlin.
 
I've really only had two disagreements with Biden's handling of the invasion, continuing to buy Russian oil and not opening up production of ours. This squares one of those. I imagine he's hoping this will be short lived enough that he can avoid angering the greenies by allowing more oil production. Let's see how that works out for him. I'm seeing a lot more of those "I did that!" gas pump stickers lately.
 
striker42 said:
Biden bans the import of Russian oil into the US. Political theater largely as the Russian imports account for only 8% of US oil imports. Doesn't help oil prices though.
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i agree that part is political theater...virtue signaling...whatever you want to call it...we will buy more from someone else...and the russian oil will get sold to someone else...the word we are looking for is fungible

btw i agree with those who criticize the keystone pipeline decision...that was a bad decision even at the time it was made...it didn't make sense even as an anti-global warming measure...the Canadian oil will get sold...it will just be sold with extra transportation costs
 
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thethe said:
8% of US Oil consumption is a nice inflow for the Kremlin.
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It's not 8% of consumption, it's 8% of imports. The US is a massive producer of oil as well. So oil obtained and used domestically wouldn't be counted in that figure.

Also, Russian oil imports were already crashing without Biden doing anything. The 8% isn't terribly difficult to replace from other sources and that process had already started as companies didn't want the baggage and risks that came along with buying Russian oil.
 
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