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acesfull86 said:
I think there are some good faith people who took issue with how Israel prosecuted the war, especially as it wore on into a second year, but there’s no denying that large group of people who started their anti-Israel campaign before the Hamas terrorist attack had even ended.
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I agree with this - I think the loudest are the Jew haters personally.

Everyone should always be against women and children dying in a war but it needs to be balanced against the fact that Jews, and yes this is synonymous with Israel, face enemies all around waiting to wipe them off the face of the earth.
 
acesfull86 said:
I think there are some good faith people who took issue with how Israel prosecuted the war, especially as it wore on into a second year, but there’s no denying that large group of people who started their anti-Israel campaign before the Hamas terrorist attack had even ended.
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Thousands died that shouldn’t have and Netanyahu is to some degree responsible and should be made accountable for his decisions.

It makes you wonder what We would have done if on 9/11 one of those planes were instead flown to the Middle East was and we had hundreds of Americans held hostage.
 
acesfull86 said:
I think there are some good faith people who took issue with how Israel prosecuted the war, especially as it wore on into a second year, but there’s no denying that large group of people who started their anti-Israel campaign before the Hamas terrorist attack had even ended.
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I agree with this wholeheartedly. There’s a wide assortment of people who are caucusing with me on the Israel-Palestine situation that make me sick to my stomach and seem to clearly be focused on the Israel part rather than the murdering thousands of innocent people part.
 
thethe said:
I agree with this - I think the loudest are the Jew haters personally.

Everyone should always be against women and children dying in a war but it needs to be balanced against the fact that Jews, and yes this is synonymous with Israel, face enemies all around waiting to wipe them off the face of the earth.
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Sure, but I think some of you have set that equilibrium you’re balancing against at a pretty disturbing threshold. I’m not looking to deny that Israel has unique security needs due to their place within the region, nor am I going to claim that Hamas is anything other than an extremist group that Israel was justified in striking (repeatedly) for their horrific act of terror.

It’s just that since October 8, 2023 the casualty toll is something in the ballpark of 60,000 to 600. I truly don’t know where my line would have been for acceptable civilian casualties, but they went so far past it that it’s basically a moot point.
 
mqt said:
Sure, but I think some of you have set that equilibrium you’re balancing against at a pretty disturbing threshold. I’m not looking to deny that Israel has unique security needs due to their place within the region, nor am I going to claim that Hamas is anything other than an extremist group that Israel was justified in striking (repeatedly) for their horrific act of terror.

It’s just that since October 8, 2023 the casualty toll is something in the ballpark of 60,000 to 600. I truly don’t know where my line would have been for acceptable civilian casualties, but they went so far past it that it’s basically a moot point.
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Blame the people that terrorize and hide behind women and children.
 
mqt said:
I agree with this wholeheartedly. There’s a wide assortment of people who are caucusing with me on the Israel-Palestine situation that make me sick to my stomach and seem to clearly be focused on the Israel part rather than the murdering thousands of innocent people part.
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Jew haters is the term you are looking for here.
 
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