Global Events & Politics Überthread

thethe said:
This is all nonsense. We are just - look at how people are treated in this country. Your false logic has no impact.

The ccp are not the good guys or “just as bad as us” guys.
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That only holds for as long as we act that way. Taking over the entire hemisphere would be exactly what we worry about China attempting. If we were to steal Venezuelan oil for ourselves, invade Greenland and take out the leaders of Mexico and Cuba, how would that not be worse than anything China is doing on the global stage?
 
mqt said:
That only holds for as long as we act that way. Taking over the entire hemisphere would be exactly what we worry about China attempting. If we were to steal Venezuelan oil for ourselves, invade Greenland and take out the leaders of Mexico and Cuba, how would that not be worse than anything China is doing on the global stage?
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The answer is easy. Each place we have pushed in the western hemisphere so far has led to better outcomes for its people.
 
thethe said:
The answer is easy. Each place we have pushed in the western hemisphere so far has led to better outcomes for its people.
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Ah yes, they even coined the term Banana Republic to explain how all the residents now get free bananas in the countries we pushed.
 
Oh and another example of principals:

In 2020, Chuckie Schumer berates Trump from the Senate floor for not ousting his buddy Madero.

And also in 2025 takes the same floor to bash Trump for ousting Madero
 
mqt said:
Sure, they were also interested in the oil. The only difference is that you seem to think that’s bad only when they are.
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Nah,

But who would you rather control VZ and its resources?

The USA, China, or Russia?

The answer to me is fairly clear, but I know as a unAmerican Freedom hater and a person who disregards Americans safety, it could be a tough pickle for ya
 
To those worrying about our continued involvement in Venezuela, don’t worry! If we’re lucky we might just have to split the country down the middle and have a 40 year Nuclear showdown with the other side!
 
mqt said:
World War 2, 50% of Korea and Panama? Those are your examples? Woof
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Yes long term outcomes. There is no good long term outcome with Muslim nations.

Thise were also times when the balance on the field wasn’t as lopsided to the US.

Anyone making this out to be another Iraq is going to be sorely surprised. Just like they are currently without prices rising as they thought 6 months ago
 
mqt said:
To those worrying about our continued involvement in Venezuela, don’t worry! If we’re lucky we might just have to split the country down the middle and have a 40 year Nuclear showdown with the other side!
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No Soviet Union in the neighborhood anymore.

Keep thinking this will be bad and trump will continue to show the world the way.

Clueless
 
thethe said:
No Soviet Union in the neighborhood anymore.

Keep thinking this will be bad and trump will continue to show the world the way.

Clueless
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You’re the one saying this is obviously all about fighting against the encroaching influence of a Communist superpower.
 
mqt said:
You’re the one saying this is obviously all about fighting against the encroaching influence of a Communist superpower.
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Can I ask you where the Soviet Union was after 1945 and compare that to where the ccp is to Venezuela now?

Clueless
 
thethe said:
Can I ask you where the Soviet Union was after 1945 and compare that to where the ccp is to Venezuela now?

Clueless
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I’d truly love a quick peek at the alternate universe where Kamala Harris won and did this, just to see why you’d think it was obvious that we were starting by a forever war or how China was laughing at us.
 
mqt said:
I’d truly love a quick peek at the alternate universe where Kamala Harris won and did this, just to see why you’d think it was obvious that we were starting by a forever war or how China was laughing at us.
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I’d hate it because the Obama/autopen regime has been one of the worst and most embarrassing collection of military officers/decisions.

Turns out the leadership at the top changes my mindset on the best decisions.

Autopen tries what trump did with his DEI useless generals and ten Americans die.
 
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