msstate7
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Let's just take a hand or penis if you rape. I bet this would calm offenders down
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Let's just take a hand or penis if you rape. I bet this would calm offenders down
Medieval punishments were crafted with centuries of experience on how to deter this activity. Should absolutely bring it back.
I’m not really sure that the rationality of criminals applies to what I’m saying about ‘tough on crime’ sentencing though. You could make the punishment for the crime an eternity in Hell and it wouldn’t matter if the person thought they wouldn’t get caught. People will consider whether or not they’ll get caught, I don’t think they typically spend much time worrying whether they’ll be in prison for 2 or 20 years if they are, though.
The end result to these bills then is overcrowding our prisons by adding extra years to a punishment they already don’t want. That’s great for people who own private prisons, but kind of a bummer for the rest of society.
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acesfull86
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Prefer that to having to find a CVS associate to unlock the case so I can buy a pack of gum in NYC.
And Hell would get very expensive to run when enough shopkeepers managed to catch the people that stole gum anyway because they wanted the gum and didn’t think anybody would notice.
Tapate50
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I think it’s even better for society if we take meaningful steps to reduce recidivism, and our current system isn’t cutting it, even when there are harsh mandatory minimums and overcrowded prisons.
Yet people regularly commit crimes where the punishment is life in prison or worse. How do you explain this?
Not in a vacuum. But the way we specifically do it now does lead to a higher rate of recidivism in my opinion. Even disregarding the times when the system actually puts innocent people in jail, when you take someone who is stealing and imprison them for multiple years, then have laws on the books that allow employers to use that theft as a reason not to hire them or landlords to not let them live in their buildings, you create a pretty toxic negative feedback loop. And when you overstuff the prisons with people who aren’t even greatly harming society and make life inside prison worse through budget cuts, you just turn rehabilitation into crowd control. Until we figure out how to solve those issues, not to mention the horrifying pre-trial process, I think it’s actually plausible that doing nothing to them is roughly as effective at reducing recidivism than the current system.
It would obviously affect murder rates, but if you go too far in the opposite direction then you do incentivize taking additional steps to hide your crimes, such as murdering the witnesses to theft. I ultimately think prison sentences need to be about public safety, not punishment. We don’t intrinsically do our society favors by locking people up for their crimes. The focus should be on how to give people the skills and opportunities to succeed without returning to crime while keeping the rest of society safe.
cajunrevenge
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https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ly-threatens-president-assassinated-116158713
Philippines VP claims she has a contract to kill the President and his family if she is murdered. Which raises an interesting legal issue. That most certainly is a threat but is it really illegal to say if you kill me I will have you killed.
Philippines VP claims she has a contract to kill the President and his family if she is murdered. Which raises an interesting legal issue. That most certainly is a threat but is it really illegal to say if you kill me I will have you killed.
cajunrevenge
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There is strong correlation between the belief they will get away with a crime and the willingness to do it. Some people are just retarded and think they are smart enough to get away with it. The way I would handle crime is serious violent crime like robberies and car jacking are automatic life sentences but they can earn early release with good behavior in prison. I would structure the prison system so that those who commit violence in prison get weeded out to higher security prisons. Those with good behavior slowly advance to lower security prisons eventually to the point of being in a work release program. Then when they are released they have a job and enough money to set them up for success if they truly want to be law abiding citizens.