CyYoung31
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Freeman has nothing nothing to do with how bad the Braves are. Conversely, he would have been the main reason they didn't lose 100 games this year.
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Freeman has nothing nothing to do with how bad the Braves are. Conversely, he would have been the main reason they didn't lose 100 games this year.
NinersSBChamps
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br> 2015 (Co-Winner)</BR>20
Good players on awful teams don't deserve any sort of accolades.
It's an individual award not a team one.
CyYoung31
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Why?
NinersSBChamps
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br> 2015 (Co-Winner)</BR>20
They aren't valuable if they are on a bad team. Fair or unfair it's the way it is. Who cares anyway?
CyYoung31
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That makes no sense.
NinersSBChamps
<B>Voted Worst Poster <br> 2015 (Co-Winner)</BR>20
The Braves are bad with or without Freddie Freeman. He can't be that valuable on a terrible team. I don't understand why this is difficult to understand.
CyYoung31
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He's the only reason they're not a 100-loss team.
Baseball has plenty of celebrations as well. But just like in football, there are defined lines that are pretty clear on what is appropriate. If you sack a QB in football and then taunt him in front of his face, it's a clear sign of disrespect and you're in all likelihood going to cause a fight. In baseball, flipping your bat is a clear sign of disrespect. Bautista knows this. And in a series that has had emotions running high, he clearly was doing this as a sign of disrespect. No one flips their bat after a solo homer when they are down 5 runs.
That's your opinion. I actually share that opinion to a point. The problem is MLB writers have set a precedent that great players on bad teams can win the award. Which means our opinions don't really matter on it. Freeman had as good of a chance as anyone else to win it had he kept his pace.
I don't understand why people are so incessant about being upset about any of it. Who cares if a player flips his bat? But also, who cares if players on the other team get upset about a player flipping his bat?
I love when teams get pissed at each other. What is far more entertaining than a guy flipping his bat and no one caring? A guy flipping his bat, the other team getting ticked, hitting the player with a pitch, and everyone generally being upset at each other. That is fascinating to watch.
I love when teams get pissed at each other. What is far more entertaining than a guy flipping his bat and no one caring? A guy flipping his bat, the other team getting ticked, hitting the player with a pitch, and everyone generally being upset at each other. That is fascinating to watch.
AerchAngel
<B>Secretary of Statistics</B>
I think Murphy and Dawson won MVP awards on very bad teams.
Indeed. Arod as well.
GovClintonTyree
<B>Vencer a Los Doyers</B>
Andre Dawson.
Tie goes to the guy on a winner. So the great player on a poor team needs to be head and shoulders above the rest. Freddie was tracking that way, but if there were winning guys having monster years, they win.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Agreed. I don't think the flip in the playoff game was a slight; the flip the other night was clearly done solely to stir up trouble.
CyYoung31
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Murphy won his MVPs on a playoff team and a near-90 win team...
I agree with that. If Harper and Freeman had similar years for example I would have no issue at all with Harper winning it.
I agree with that. I think the best way to counteract this is to simply allow umpires to eject players for excessive celebration. Now you don't want to strictly enforce it because you want players to be able to show their personality, but in situations like this I do think everyone in the country could clearly tell that Bautista did this to stir up trouble.