Heyward to Cubs for less than $200M

zbhargrove said:
Cool story... Please go drink another beer.
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When did Heyward ever bash the Braves?

And two, how exactly is he wrong that Stl has an aging core? Peralta, Waino, Holliday, Molina are all 33-36. And their farm system isnt as good as it has been.

No need to throw personal shots because you were wrong again.
 
Lol at a mediocre baseball player who isn't even on the Braves any longer causing arguments on here.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
Lol at a mediocre baseball player who isn't even on the Braves any longer causing arguments on here.
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dude is the most polarizing player in recent Braves history.. I have seen more b***h slapping at this and other forum sites over this guy than any other player...current or former.. it amazes me..
 
Heyward said:
When did Heyward ever bash the Braves?

And two, how exactly is he wrong that Stl has an aging core? Peralta, Waino, Holliday, Molina are all 33-36. And their farm system isnt as good as it has been.

No need to throw personal shots because you were wrong again.
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He remarked about having to bat lead-off or being shuffled around in the line-up in a spring training interview. it wasn't a broadside at the Braves per se, but Matheny felt obliged to jump in and mitigate the comments.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
dude is the most polarizing player in recent Braves history.. I have seen more b***h slapping at this and other forum sites over this guy than any other player...current or former.. it amazes me..
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It's not against Heyward. It's against the fanboys. First, he was supposed to deliver tape measure home runs. That didn't turn out so well. We can allow him some latitude for the injuries. Then, even his regular #'s were not exactly showing "generational talent." Hey, hitting .270, and lifting maybe 20 jacks, stealing a few bases isn't too bad. This is nothing earthshaking though. After all that, then suddenly getting a Gold Glove put him among the pantheon of greats.

One last thing, it is interesting that there's a mixed reaction coming out of St. Louis. So, yeah, not everybody bought into all the undeserved hype.
 
Knucksie said:
One last thing, it is interesting that there's a mixed reaction coming out of St. Louis. So, yeah, not everybody bought into all the undeserved hype.
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I browsed one Cards board after he signed, some were sour, some were mad he left. Some understood he went to a better situation with a younger, upstart team.

But at the end of the day, the Cards arent gonna offer 200+ mil to a guy with "undeserved hype"
 
Heyward said:
When did Heyward ever bash the Braves?

And two, how exactly is he wrong that Stl has an aging core? Peralta, Waino, Holliday, Molina are all 33-36. And their farm system isnt as good as it has been.

No need to throw personal shots because you were wrong again.
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I don't know if you're in a place to tell anyone they are "wrong again" or to tell people to stop taking personal shots... you're one of the kings of both offenses on this board. 50 brought up the example I was thinking of... but again, it was a tongue in cheek comment and it got the Heyward fanatics uptight with their panties in a wad, which I found amusing.
 
Julio3000 said:
I'll bet those grapes weren't even that sweet.
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No doubt there's always going to be that part of it, esp. since he went to a big rival. Still, my earlier prediction from months ago was that he's leave and that the Cards would do just fine without him.
 
I dunno, didn't Heyward just take the best contract offer out there? Did it really come down to taking less for one team? The Cubs contract might have been less overall amount than the Nats, but the Cubs gave two opt outs which could be more valuable long term.
 
NYCBrave said:
I dunno, didn't Heyward just take the best contract offer out there? Did it really come down to taking less for one team? The Cubs contract might have been less overall amount than the Nats, but the Cubs gave two opt outs which could be more valuable long term.
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He likely took the best offer. He gets paid well, and if he opts out he gets paid really well for his service time and then signs for more money than the Cards or Nats deal AAV most likely.
 
Knucksie said:
No doubt there's always going to be that part of it, esp. since he went to a big rival. Still, my earlier prediction from months ago was that he's leave and that the Cards would do just fine without him.
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I agree, the Cards will be fine. They wanted him, but they didn't need him. Lord knows they've been able to reload and stay competitive over the years. That said, some Cards fans seem to have a mentality of entitlement, and feel personally affronted that someone wouldn't want to play in front of The Best Fans in the World. Sour grapes. Same folks would have been doing backflips if he'd re-signed.
 
Wainwright not pulling any punches on Heyward . . .

While Wainwright was complimentary of Heyward, saying he was a great teammate, friend and person, he also put forth a theory about Heyward's decision to move to Chicago that wasn't at all complimentary. Wainwright said he doesn't believe Heyward wants to be 'The One, the cornerstone guy that you build a team around.'
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"When you look at that money that was offered to him, there’s really not much more our management can do than offer him that contract," Wainwright said during his interview with Miklasz. "He knows that we’re going to be in a position to win every year. and what it comes down to is this: he didn’t want to play there after myself, and Yadier (Molina) and Matt (Holliday) were gone, on such a long contract.

"it really comes down to a personality trait to me. The person that we want to give that kind of money to, that big money to, he needs to be a person that wants to be the guy that carries the torch. He needs to be a guy that wants to be the person, that after we leave, he carries on the tradition. And that’s just a personality thing, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But we’re looking for that guy who wants to be the man.”
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-b...rd-doesn-t-want-to-be--the-one-165556672.html
 
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