Holy Schit: How is this man running for office successfully?

the same people that think socialism and communism are the same are the people that would tell me that Hitler and fascists are the same as communists

i would be willing to wager that at least
 
Chipper said:
You're right that there's no one who deserves the job.
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not sure if he deserves it

but from the republican side, the best option i could see and could actually see maybe voting for would be John Kasich

i'm sure we don't agree on everything obviously but i don't agree on everything with anyone obviously anyway

too bad the party is too crazy for a sensible person like him to make headlines when the likes of Carson is what the out of touch base wants
 
BedellBrave said:
Trump playing the xenophobe reflects a populace filled with those that fear illegal immigration.
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the republican base doesn't care if it is legal or illegal

they don't like brown or black immigration as a whole. they wish it was the good old days of white europeans still coming here but they (white europeans) don't want to leave their "horrible socialist" countries to come to the land of the free anymore

the republican base sees browns taking over and are scared. the easiest way to play to that fear is to tap the "illegal" immigration card.

it's the way to talk about it without being direct. similar to the way weed legalization pushed medical (which should have been happening anyway) to get weed on the ballots with the end goal being out right legalization
 
goldfly said:
not sure if he deserves it

but from the republican side, the best option i could see and could actually see maybe voting for would be John Kasich

i'm sure we don't agree on everything obviously but i don't agree on everything with anyone obviously anyway

too bad the party is too crazy for a sensible person like him to make headlines when the likes of Carson is what the out of touch base wants
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I"ve heard Kasich say some really good, level headed, almost visionary stuff, then I've heard him say some really dumb right wing's wet dream stuff too, sort of like Newt Gingrich. I've heard that man say stuff that just blows away anything (in a good way) you'll ever hear from a politician, then the next day he would call Obama a Kenyan tribesman. I'm not sure what is wrong with these people but I think somebody needs to adjust their meds.

As for who's really qualified for the job, Groucho Marx used to say "I'd never join a club that would have me as a member", to me the first rule of disqualifying someone from being able to run for president is that if they truly want that job, there's something seriously wrong with them and therefore they shouldn't be allowed to run for it or have it.
 
57Brave said:
I don't know, I've never voted for her and would vote for Sanders in a primary. But why not HRC ? She's been elected to the Senate twice was Sec of State and has worked in public service in children's issues. I agree with much of what she says

I strongly disagree with 99% of (R) candidates ideas and positions but would n't call them pathetic simply because we disagree. Trump,Carson etal have far more qualifications to be POTUS than any of us here
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She's been elected twice? That's all you need?

You agree with much of what she says... Did you agree with her when she made a speech about how gay marriage was wrong?


Did you agree with her when she was pushing us into war with Iraq?


Did you agree with her when she was in support of securing our boarders and now allowing immigrants to get driver's licenses?

“I support Governor Spitzer’s decision today to withdraw his proposal,” she said in a statement. “As President, I will not support driver’s licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration, including border security and fixing our broken system.”
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Did you support her when she was in favor of the bank bailouts and TARP?

We had the Bengazi failure and the ridiculously dumb email server issue.

She's never accomplished anything noteworthy in her career... She is a pathological liar at best, and a disgusting human being who should never be considered for any public position in any capacity at worse.
 
btw, as crazy as i think the idea of Trump being a nomination or president

i think Carson is an even crazier idea

it's like they threw Trump out there and were like "fine, you think he is crazy? we will show you crazy"
 
sturg33 said:
She's been elected twice? That's all you need?

You agree with much of what she says... Did you agree with her when she made a speech about how gay marriage was wrong?


Did you agree with her when she was pushing us into war with Iraq?


Did you agree with her when she was in support of securing our boarders and now allowing immigrants to get driver's licenses?

Did you support her when she was in favor of the bank bailouts and TARP?

We had the Bengazi failure and the ridiculously dumb email server issue.

She's never accomplished anything noteworthy in her career... She is a pathological liar at best, and a disgusting human being who should never be considered for any public position in any capacity at worse.
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57Brave said:
did you not read the first sentence ?
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I don't know, I've never voted for her and would vote for Sanders in a primary. But why not HRC ? She's been elected to the Senate twice was Sec of State and has worked in public service in children's issues. I agree with much of what she says

I strongly disagree with 99% of (R) candidates ideas and positions but would n't call them pathetic simply because we disagree. Trump,Carson etal have far more qualifications to be POTUS than any of us here


Did you not read the first 3 words!

Because after I politly tried to answer, you continued asking the same question.

AGAIN,

I have never voted for HRC. And have no plans to.

For h record, I think Cruz, Rubio, Fiona, Trump and Carson also qualified to be POTUS.

Improve you're reading skills
Please
 
57Brave said:
I don't know, I've never voted for her and would vote for Sanders in a primary. But why not HRC ? She's been elected to the Senate twice was Sec of State and has worked in public service in children's issues. I agree with much of what she says

I strongly disagree with 99% of (R) candidates ideas and positions but would n't call them pathetic simply because we disagree. Trump,Carson etal have far more qualifications to be POTUS than any of us here


Did you not read the first 3 words!

Because after I politly tried to answer, you continued asking the same question.

AGAIN,

I have never voted for HRC. And have no plans to.

For h record, I think Cruz, Rubio, Fiona, Trump and Carson also qualified to be POTUS.

Improve you're reading skills
Please
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You said you agree with much of what she says... did you agree with the things she said above? Or do you believe her when she says she's "evolved"

I have a feeling you will be voting for her next year
 
So 57, if you have no plans to vote for Hillary, are you going to support the Green Party candidate? Because Bernie didn't do himself any favors the first debate.
 
bravesnumberone said:
So 57, if you have no plans to vote for Hillary, are you going to support the Green Party candidate? Because Bernie didn't do himself any favors the first debate.
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I'm supporting Stein regardless over Sanders. Don't hate Sanders like I hate Hildog and the majority of the R field (Rand Paul isn't someone I necessarily hate, but I have a lot to be concerned about him)
 
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