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VirginiaBrave said:
VA is changing for the better in my opinion. There is more tolerance and more open minded folks. Its more of a live and let live thing. The Repubs doomed their party the minute that they tied their wagon to the religious zelots like Jerry Falwell and such. Its funny that Barry Goldwater predicted this very outcome when the preachers and politics got in cahoots in the '80s. They have absolutely made themselves into this mess and its only going to get worse for them because the next generation will be even more open to the democratic philosophy than the majority is now. We are getting ready to elect our 3rd Democrat in the last 24 years with the stolen 2000 election and the weak candidate that was Kerry in 2004 that should jolt the right into two realizations. First never sign stupid pledges and if a candidate refuses vetting they need to run. Second, this is not a conservative country anymore and the sooner they figure that out the better they will be. They can take their time as far as I am concerned.
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D.G. Hart is a conservative scholar who teaches history at Hillsdale College in Michigan and he wrote a marvelous book about how the mix of religion and politics has been trouble for conservatives because the religious push of what is now viewed as modern conservatism often clashes with the goals of classic conservatism.

Here's a link to the book: https://www.amazon.com/Billy-Graham...UTF8&qid=1476539936&sr=8-2&keywords=d.g.+hart

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50PoundHead said:
D.G. Hart is a conservative scholar who teaches history at Hillsdale College in Michigan and he wrote a marvelous book about how the mix of religion and politics has been trouble for conservatives because the religious push of what is now viewed as modern conservatism often clashes with the goals of classic conservatism.

Here's a link to the book: https://www.amazon.com/Billy-Graham...UTF8&qid=1476539936&sr=8-2&keywords=d.g.+hart

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I"ve always been a fan of Billy Graham, his son...no so much. Billy would work with Republican administrations and Democrat administrations, anybody who would call he listen to and talk to. His son Franklin spends too much time (which would be any IMO) with talk radio host types.
 
So when is Anonymous going to man up and actually produce this supposed video of Bill Clinton raping a 13-year-old? This world is insane.
 
http://www.weeklystandard.com/an-attempted-hillary-email-coverup/article/2004907

A senior State Department official repeatedly pressed the FBI to change the classification of emails stored on Hillary Clinton's private server, according to FBI interview summaries set to be released in the coming days. Patrick Kennedy, the undersecretary of state for management, discussed providing additional overseas slots for the FBI in exchange for revisions to classifications of the sensitive emails.

The 34 summaries, known as FBI "302s," will be released in connection with a Freedom of Information Act request and after pressure from the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

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The FBI records official attended an "all-agency" meeting at the State Department to discuss the ongoing "classification review of pending Clinton FOIA materials." One of the participants at the meeting asked Kennedy whether any of the emails were classified. Kennedy purposely looked at the FBI records chief and then replied: "Well, we'll see."
 
Suppose for a second her aides conspired with her knowledge to close a well traveled bridge to disrupt traffic as an act of political retribution.
Or she instructed the driver open the windows ???

You really need to get out more
 
Taking lamps and furniture from the State Department to furnish her home?

Man oh mannnnn

She's not only corrupt and morally bankrupt - but also a cheapskate!

You'd think $250MM in ill-gotten gains could atleast buy you some decent lamps.
 
this one is gonna be a blowout folks! donnie already whining that "the game cheated!!!" like 12-year olds do when they lost on playstation. little toddler he is.
 
Pretty funny that none of the major media corporations will even acknowledge the fact that Hilary's campaign just admitted on video to bird dogging and inciting violence at Trump rallies.

It's basically just straight propaganda at this point. They are ignoring all of the governmental corruption going on and solely concentrating on how horny Trump was 10 years ago. Most people will never even know how corrupt her campaign is because the media just refuses to report it.
 
well there was that one time in Palestine she told the driver to open the window.
Let's not forget people were seen carrying furniture out of Foggy Bottom.

Only a couple problems there.
First they are in Foggy Bottom --- you can look it up
Second, not sure where the presumption of it went to her residence was made. Or who made the presumption
it is a crime for a government official to take something from government property for personal use.
My question is, where is the charge
Or is/was it just some internet stuff's

But back to her telling the driver to open the window.

yeah, I am mocking
and like I said, "if it bleeds it leads"
apparently this nonsense does not cross that journalistic threshold.

Matter of fact it is generally ignored for a reason.
there is no there there
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Through this entire faux bruhaha over emails often there is a quid and a pro no quo.
and sometimes the is a quid and a quo but no pro
and yet other times a pro and a quo but. You guessed it, no quid
3 is the number ...
 
I think the most important thing the O'Keefe video(s) point out is that there is foul play emanating from both sides here. The narrative for months and months and months was that Donald Trump's rallies were hotbeds for violent white supremacists and the intellectually challenged. Now, we know that the DNC was intentionally stoking that discourse in a very real and exploitative way. I don't dispute that far-right ideology can appeal to the most unsavory of elements, and that many of those elements back DJT, but at some point people have got to learn to use their own minds instead of acting like a bunch of Timothy Leary acolytes.
 
I saw two things today I thought you guys would like.

1.) an old guy (not sure how old, but older than me so that ought to get close enough) leading a donkey with a sheet sized advertisement on his (the donkey's) that said Trump/Pence Make America Great Again. To be honest I wasn't quite sure which way to go with that one, there are so many options.
2.) A church sign that read, "Vote God's Way in This Election". What exactly is "God's Way" with 2 such pinnacles of moral high standing? Now we all know what they meant, but I thought first we could have a little fun with it.
 
Hawk said:
I think the most important thing the O'Keefe video(s) point out is that there is foul play emanating from both sides here. The narrative for months and months and months was that Donald Trump's rallies were hotbeds for violent white supremacists and the intellectually challenged. Now, we know that the DNC was intentionally stoking that discourse in a very real and exploitative way. I don't dispute that far-right ideology can appeal to the most unsavory of elements, and that many of those elements back DJT, but at some point people have got to learn to use their own minds instead of acting like a bunch of Timothy Leary acolytes.
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Ok, I get it.
#both sides do it.

Provocative stuff there
 
We live in a sad world if provocation is the only MO that incites us to action or independent thought.
 
ESP47 said:
Pretty funny that none of the major media corporations will even acknowledge the fact that Hilary's campaign just admitted on video to bird dogging and inciting violence at Trump rallies.

It's basically just straight propaganda at this point. They are ignoring all of the governmental corruption going on and solely concentrating on how horny Trump was 10 years ago. Most people will never even know how corrupt her campaign is because the media just refuses to report it.
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yeah, breitbart forever yo!!!
 
Forever Fredi said:
Refuse to vote for Hillary. Considered voting Trump now I might just write in Bernie.
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You know, in the early stages of all of this, I easily could have seen myself voting for Sanders. Even if I found a lot of his ideas half-baked, he was at least directly addressing issues that matter for most Americans on a day to day basis, all while making a pretty damn compelling argument for progressivism. Much like Obama, who I had no problem voting for in 2004.

And I understood him endorsing Hillary, at least initially, in support of 'party unity'.

But to see him remain silent through the DNC leaks and all the stuff that has surfaced ever since has caused for me to view him as pretty spineless. He wouldn't have even had to withdraw support from Hillary, per se, but to just ignore it? To never come out and forcefully say that it was wrong? To demand that Hillary apologize? Damn Bernie where are your principles?
 
goldfly said:
yeah, breitbart forever yo!!!
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Funny (and accurate) but let's not pretend that you don't get your news from BuzzFeed/Facebook/HuffPo/WaPo/Politico/NYT/CNN and that those sources don't have a vested (as documented in these Wikileaks revelations) interest in pushing the candidate who supports their own bias and corporate agenda.
 
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