Impeachment

striker42 said:
Not at all. I'm calling almost every member of Congress a partisan hack who'll never break rank.
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Public posturing is easy but a roll call vote might be another thing entirely. Senators have to think longer term and they might feel T's best days are behind him. This current action by him is not a blip on a screen. There will be new scandals. He's already implied the killing of govt officials and now we find out that he's been hiding communication with untrustworthy nation leaders. There will be more, and more.
 
I think that this conversation generally underestimates how corrupt Trump is generally, and how under-equipped he is for the presidency, in the sense that he’s both mentally diminished and undisciplined, which makes the odds of him committing an impeachable offense offhandedly after, say, being accused of impeachable offense pretty strong.

Seriously, y’all. We all know who this guy is by now.
 
Julio3000 said:
I think that this conversation generally underestimates how corrupt Trump is generally, and how under-equipped he is for the presidency, in the sense that he’s both mentally diminished and undisciplined, which makes the odds of him committing an impeachable offense offhandedly after, say, being accused of impeachable offense pretty strong.

Seriously, y’all. We all know who this guy is by now.
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Yes, and it also forgets other things he may have done that we've yet to hear about, like what he said to Putin and the Saudi prince in private.

Actually I was against impeachment for all the reasons striker mentioned and more, but no one asked me.

Who thinks there'll be more revelations from officials Trump would like to have assassinated?
 
striker42 said:
Not at all. I'm calling almost every member of Congress a partisan hack who'll never break rank.
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It's worth noting that the Clinton impeachment hearing were during his final year+ of his 2nd term, so there wasn't much motivation by the Dems to oust him.
 
Glenn Kirschner
@glennkirschner2


Sen Flake just said he’d heard reported that if a secret vote were allowed

there would be 30 Republican senators that would vote for impeachment.

Flake said that is untrue, adding, it would be “at least 35.”

Who will be the first R brave enough to take a patriotic stand?
 
striker42 said:
Not at all. I'm calling almost every member of Congress a partisan hack who'll never break rank.
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Nationalization of the political discussion has helped stratify this effect. Everyone usually lines up on the big votes, but the discipline up-and-down the line on even second- and third-tier issues has become much tighter.

Fear of being "primaried" also enters into the picture.
 
In light of NRA / Russian connections who were the
republican members of Congress who went to Moscow on the 4th of July last year??

Perhaps we should be looking at them too!!
 
Alex Blagg
@alexblagg
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I’d say we’re like two news cycles away from being

able to smugly re-friend redneck uncles and

people from high school on Facebook
 
57Brave said:
Glenn Kirschner
@glennkirschner2


Sen Flake just said he’d heard reported that if a secret vote were allowed

there would be 30 Republican senators that would vote for impeachment.

Flake said that is untrue, adding, it would be “at least 35.”

Who will be the first R brave enough to take a patriotic stand?
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Flake would have been very concerned, maybe even alarmed and saddened, then voted against impeachment.
 
The people who end relationships due to a man they will never meet are peak udiot, I agree.

Plenty on this board seem to fall into that category though
 
Look Sturg, my thing is this I am a rare breed. I am a southern born white liberal so I have that bias, but for anyone where I come from it seems supporting him seems totally against everything I was taught.
 
A couple of things about impeachment:

1) the intelligence community along with various WH officials, who have orchestrated this 2nd swing at impeachment, are mostly lifelong republicans.
2) you don't mess with the CIA
3) they seem to have a plan

People will wrongly assume this impeachment attack is from the Dems, but it's from republican patriots who felt Trump was hurting the country.
 
You know Trump is serious about not giving aid to countries that are corrupt. That's why he veto'd congress trying to block military aid to Saudi Arabia after MBS had Kashoggi murdered.
 
Roland Scahill
@rolandscahill
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Just a reminder that Giuliani’s son works for the Trump administration...

Maybe he shouldn’t be talking too much about Joe Biden getting his son

special favors when he has done the exact same thing
 
Matt Pearce
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@mattdpearce
New: the former Ukrainian prosecutor at the heart of the Trump whistleblower scandal tells @latimes
that he saw no evidence of criminality by Hunter Biden; told Giuliani
“I could not start an investigation just for the interests of an American official.”
 
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