But the thing is, even under that rationale, having Wood doesn't keep us from signing the same free agents. It means we don't have Olivera, obviously, but Wood is not more expensive than Olivera. So it's really just a straight comparison of Wood/Peraza to Olivera and the value they'll bring.
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But the thing is, even under that rationale, having Wood doesn't keep us from signing the same free agents. It means we don't have Olivera, obviously, but Wood is not more expensive than Olivera. So it's really just a straight comparison of Wood/Peraza to Olivera and the value they'll bring.
This is the offseason to make a splash in FA if they are going to do it since their pick will almost certainly be protected. Sign Gordon for LF, sign the best SP they can, sign the best catcher they can without going crazy. By the time Jace hits arb he will be replaced by Albies.
Markakis RF
Maybin CF
Freeman 1B
Olivera 3B
Gordon LF
Catcher
Jace 2B
Simmons SS
Miller
Teheran
Wisler
FA
Folty/Perez/ManBan/whoever
Markakis RF
Maybin CF
Freeman 1B
Olivera 3B
Gordon LF
Catcher
Jace 2B
Simmons SS
Miller
Teheran
Wisler
FA
Folty/Perez/ManBan/whoever
Yeah, that team is fine, but considering the money we have to spend, if we go get Gordon, the catcher and SP won't be elite. So that team is still only decent.
sturg33
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Still no power.
I count 3 guys with 20 HR power (assuming Olivera is who they think he is). The only "real" power on the FA market is JUp, and I don't think the Braves want to pay $150M for his ups and downs.
Why play on a 1 year $14M deal when you could go get almost $100M?
http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/2/...ot-be-picking-up-that-player-option-after-all
sturg33
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Well, Alex Gordon has hit 20 homers twice in his 9 year career... and I don't think Olivera sniffs 20 HRs... mostly bc he won't play enough
JohnAdcox
Brian Jordan's New BFF
Kelly Johnson?
Fair enough. But if that's the case, no thanks on paying him roughly $20 million/year. That would take most of our available money and would definitely mean we couldn't add much else.
I would much rather go get Heyward for $25.
I'd imagine Gordon will command about $15M-$18M over 5-6 years, but your point is well taken. The Braves are going to have to splurge on a bat at some point, the only question is who and how much.
I think KJ is a great target this offseason.
Horsehide Harry
<B>Mr. Free Trade</B>
Prepare to be shocked
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Who's the third? Not coming at you, just genuinely clueless.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Ne Plus Ultra?
sturg33
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I think he assumes Gordon
blueagleace1
Playing the Waiting Game
I will again bring up his name but more so to ask if I'm thinking in the right rationale.
Ryan Braun.
He is on pace to put up the following numbers: .266 AVG, .335 OBP, .821 OPS and 121 OPS+ with 30 HR, 98 RBI, 90 R, and 23 SB
Now compare that to Justin Upton (yes I know their home parks are totally different that's why I put in OPS+): .249 AVG, .325 OBP, .760 OPS and 116 OPS+ with 28 HR, 88 RBI, 80 R, and 27 SB
Finally, here is a breakdown of Braun's contract from a yearly basis:
2016: $20 million
2017: $20 million
2018: $20 million
2019: $19 million
2020: $17 million
2021: $15 million mutual option with a $4 million buyout
TOTAL: $100 million guaranteed or $111 million if the option is picked up
So here are my three main questions:
1.) If he is someone that interest you, would you rather pick up all his salary to lessen the price we pay in prospects -OR- have Milwaukee send some money and therefore making us include more/better prospects?
2.) Is there a better bat available for less than what Braun makes (5 years / $100 million or $20 AAV) that would give us his production (currently a 1.9 WAR player)?
3.) What would it take to get him? (My opinion.. we send Sims/Whalen/Cunningham/Thurman to MIL for Braun/Knebel/$20 million) Totally MY opinion.
Anyone??
Ryan Braun.
He is on pace to put up the following numbers: .266 AVG, .335 OBP, .821 OPS and 121 OPS+ with 30 HR, 98 RBI, 90 R, and 23 SB
Now compare that to Justin Upton (yes I know their home parks are totally different that's why I put in OPS+): .249 AVG, .325 OBP, .760 OPS and 116 OPS+ with 28 HR, 88 RBI, 80 R, and 27 SB
Finally, here is a breakdown of Braun's contract from a yearly basis:
2016: $20 million
2017: $20 million
2018: $20 million
2019: $19 million
2020: $17 million
2021: $15 million mutual option with a $4 million buyout
TOTAL: $100 million guaranteed or $111 million if the option is picked up
So here are my three main questions:
1.) If he is someone that interest you, would you rather pick up all his salary to lessen the price we pay in prospects -OR- have Milwaukee send some money and therefore making us include more/better prospects?
2.) Is there a better bat available for less than what Braun makes (5 years / $100 million or $20 AAV) that would give us his production (currently a 1.9 WAR player)?
3.) What would it take to get him? (My opinion.. we send Sims/Whalen/Cunningham/Thurman to MIL for Braun/Knebel/$20 million) Totally MY opinion.
Anyone??
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
I would pay the full ride to lower the cost. Part of the Olivera sales pitch is we save a ton of money there to spend elsewhere.
I think it's possible we get Braun but probably only in a package deal for lucroy.
With markakis and Braun we'd have the corners locked up for a while but we have no help in sight in the minors.