nsacpi
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how does the determination get made in a democratic society what is inside and outside the scope of what government should be doing
who makes such determinations and how
Is Free Speech Under Attack in this Country?
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how does the determination get made in a democratic society what is inside and outside the scope of what government should be doing
who makes such determinations and how
nsacpi
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I'll just make the observation that the best way to counter misinformation and disinformation is to provide information. Perhaps I'm naive but the government should be in the business of providing information. My own profession relieves heavily on the information (economic data) gathered and published by government agencies. That data gets heavily used and analyzed by the private sector. Errors are sometimes found and pointed out to the agencies that gather the data.
nsacpi
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A newly formed Disinformation Governance Board announced Wednesday will immediately begin focusing on misinformation aimed at migrants, a problem that has helped to fuel sudden surges at the U.S. southern border in recent years. Human smugglers often spread misinformation around border policies to drum up business.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/depa...ity-disinformation_n_626c1d3be4b0cca67555c50d
It seems to me if stories are circulating in Guatemala that every migrant to the U.S. is being furnished with a beachside condo, it might be a good use of taxpayer dollars to get out the information that this is not accurate.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/depa...ity-disinformation_n_626c1d3be4b0cca67555c50d
It seems to me if stories are circulating in Guatemala that every migrant to the U.S. is being furnished with a beachside condo, it might be a good use of taxpayer dollars to get out the information that this is not accurate.
sturg33
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I fondly recalled when the government assured us the lab leak theory was misinformation, that distenguishing the "dying with and dying from" is misinformation, that the vaccine stops the spread, and that Hunter's laptop was simply Russia misinformation and should be censored. and funny enough the crazy lady they put in charge of this pushed all of the above!
you seals are so easy to control
you seals are so easy to control
msstate7
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How bout just stop the flow? Show up at our border, and you get turned around
nsacpi
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It seems to me one way to reduce the flow is to provide information to counter rumors. It is not the only way. And taking this particular step doesn't mean you don't do other things that can reduce the flow.
Tapate50
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Tapate50
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they already do that without a new bureau
cajunrevenge
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Are you going to be monitoring them to let us know what the misinformation is because unless RW media keeps us posted I doubt anyone will even know what they are saying. They have no power to censor or arrest anyone.
cajunrevenge
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first you decide what you want the constitution to say then you work backwards to justify your "interpretation"
cajunrevenge
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This government disinformation board sounds like the kind of thing that people on the Left would have freaked out about if Trump had done it, but in reality is fine if the scope is kept narrow enough. Social media is a goddamn cesspool, particularly internationally. Look at the Philippines and India as good examples for how social media can be used across a nation to drive some really bad disinformation, and it’s really not hard to imagine the wrong disinformation actually harming our national security, even if it’s indirectly.
Where I object is if it is used to limit free speech, particularly domestically. I cannot accept any action taken by the government that tells a social media company what to take down, or takes steps to limit what can be discussed. It might be overly naive to take the government at its word that it won’t do that, but I haven’t yet seen any evidence that suggests they are. Until they do, I can at least see the sense in knowing what is happening out there, whether the Left or Right is in charge of it. If either side crosses the line (which will probably happen, because this country sucks) then I’ll openly oppose it no matter which side is running it.
Where I object is if it is used to limit free speech, particularly domestically. I cannot accept any action taken by the government that tells a social media company what to take down, or takes steps to limit what can be discussed. It might be overly naive to take the government at its word that it won’t do that, but I haven’t yet seen any evidence that suggests they are. Until they do, I can at least see the sense in knowing what is happening out there, whether the Left or Right is in charge of it. If either side crosses the line (which will probably happen, because this country sucks) then I’ll openly oppose it no matter which side is running it.
cajunrevenge
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The lab leak **** is not important. I dont recall anything about dying with vs dying from. Not sure where you got that from. Literally everything but the fact Hunter Biden had a laptop so far has been misinformation. Even the repair guy admits there's a misinformation campaign about the laptop.
sturg33
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It's amazing how stupid you've become