zitothebrave
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I mean the heavy implication is something won't be truly sith. We've already seen people who are anti-jedi presumably dark side users in the witches.
Jecki Lon Memorial Star Wars Thread
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I mean the heavy implication is something won't be truly sith. We've already seen people who are anti-jedi presumably dark side users in the witches.
striker42
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I was disappointed that Qimir was the master. It was the obvious choice which made me think it wouldn't be him. But I gave the writers too much credit. Still, that actor did a fantastic job. He's been the high point of the series.
I don't have issue with the Padawan going toe to toe with the master. There are established cases of Padawans being exceptionally gifted. Ahsoka is a good parallel. Also, the Padawan was dual wielding for most of the fight. Something that made Jedi much more dangerous but was discouraged as being too aggressive.
I hate they killed her off. I liked her character.
The twin switch trope is cringe worthy. You're not fooling a Jedi master who knows Osha very, very well. Also, you're not cutting your hair with a lightsaber and it looking anything like what you're going for.
I don't have issue with the Padawan going toe to toe with the master. There are established cases of Padawans being exceptionally gifted. Ahsoka is a good parallel. Also, the Padawan was dual wielding for most of the fight. Something that made Jedi much more dangerous but was discouraged as being too aggressive.
I hate they killed her off. I liked her character.
The twin switch trope is cringe worthy. You're not fooling a Jedi master who knows Osha very, very well. Also, you're not cutting your hair with a lightsaber and it looking anything like what you're going for.
striker42
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They've not used their characters wisely.
zitothebrave
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I don't know if Mae did fool Sol. (we'll find out tonight/tomorrow) or if Sol assumed Mae killed Osha and he wants to get his redemption by redeeming Mae.
striker42
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I'm afraid they're going to make Qimir some kind of dark side mirror of Sol. That the witches did something with Sol that created another Sol but a dark side version.
Qimir says he was a Jedi a very long time ago but he doesn't look old at all so there's something up there. Next, one of the rescue party members suspects Sol of killing everyone and said something like "Who but Master Sol had the power to do this?"
Also, Qimir is apparently Arabic for moon while Sol is another word for sun.
Qimir says he was a Jedi a very long time ago but he doesn't look old at all so there's something up there. Next, one of the rescue party members suspects Sol of killing everyone and said something like "Who but Master Sol had the power to do this?"
Also, Qimir is apparently Arabic for moon while Sol is another word for sun.
Tapate50
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striker42
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You could probably have done in 2 episodes what this crew took 6 to do.
The glossing over the Jedi deaths makes me really question some of the time invested in developing Jord and Jecki's characters. If you want to use those deaths to motivate characters later in the show, they needed to put more time into their deaths.
Reading the show runner's comments on Jecki, she seems to be of the Rian Johnson school of thought trying to subvert expectations. She intentionally killed the Padawan because she thought people wouldn't see it coming and then specifically didn't give her a hero's death to further subvert expectations.
She thought this would leave people shocked but it really just left people puzzled as to why time was wasted on these characters.
Subverting expectations isn't a license to use screentime poorly.
zitothebrave
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Disagree on it being pointless, we won't know until anything later happens. Lots of setup here. A duality of Sol's attempted conscious clear vs. Qimir attempting to still get his acolyte. More importantly it sets up the likely clear conflict which was Qimir was Vernesrta Rhoh's apprentice.
Also we get a reference to Plageuis novel which could be setting up Darth Tenebrous
zitothebrave
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I whole heartedly disagree. THere's been so much world building that's happened that if it didn't would lead to a worse show where you live in a world that's really hollow.
HEre's what I don't get. You're complaining about what's happened in the episodes. but then you want more time invested into the deaths of Jecki and Yord. First off we haven't gotten to spend much time with Osha actually dealing with her emotions.
striker42
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I only want more time with Jecki and Yord's deaths because of the time put into them to begin with. If you're going to kill them off with so little fanfare, don't spend time on them to begin with. They were a huge waste of time.
They've wasted so much time in this show. The whole thing of Osha crashing in the prison ship was pointless to the story. They spent a whole episode on the coven which could have been told, and told better, in a few flashbacks.
Almost everything that happened on Sol's ship was pointless this past episode. Do we need to see the beaver tracker every other scene?
Qimir is carrying that show on his back. He's fantastic but the rest is a muddled mess.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Little fanfare? They died brutally and viscerally. Did you feel that way about Qui-Gon? Maul? Obi-Wan, etc. Were they a waste of time.
Sorry you're wrong, setup flashback episodes are fine. You'd rather have **** like book of Boba fett where they take you out of episodes for flashbacks?
You're being nitpicky If you cut out Bazil you save a handful of minutes. That's nothing most of th etime he's involved is as a background character. The bit of the ship is there for relationship development. It's a classic trope. 2 people stuck somewhere forced to work on their feelings/relationships.
zitothebrave
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I'm beginning a rewatch of the Mandalorian. Remember when they did a Seven Samurai Episode that accomplished no plot movement and no one complained? I miss those days. When people were just excited to see cool **** happen in space.
striker42
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The Mandalorian is a different form of storytelling. It's more traditional TV with bottle episodes. The Acolyte is trying to tell one story. It's more akin to a long movie.
zitothebrave
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Was it? There was nothing in the sales pitch that didn't say there was an overarching story.
Acolyte is like Mandalorian, building a world and building character relationships.
Yes it was important for Osha to have a relationship with Yord be established, and develop one with Jecki so their deaths could be used as a tool against Osha.
striker42
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The Mandalorian is character driven. The Acolyte is plot driven. Two different ways of telling a story. Both valid, just different.
When a plot driven show spends time on character development, it needs to serve the plot. The Acolyte spent time developing side characters only to kill them off without much impact on the story. Things like that make a plot driven show feel muddled and poorly paced.
If you tightened up the story telling and saved money on hiring some recognizable actors for pointless characters, then you'd have had time and budget to have had some more action scenes.
I don't hate The Acolyte, I lament its wasted potential. Qimir deserves a better written show.
striker42
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So we know the true story of what happened to the coven now. Interestingly the Zabrak woman is still alive.
I thought they were going to split Sol using the vergence to create Qimir when they mentioned the vergence splitting the twins. Doesn't look like that happened though.
I don't think we've seen the last of the vergence though.
I thought they were going to split Sol using the vergence to create Qimir when they mentioned the vergence splitting the twins. Doesn't look like that happened though.
I don't think we've seen the last of the vergence though.