bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Soon.. very soon.. you just wait.
Kemp and the Quest for 1 bWAR
- Thread starter thewupk
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Soon.. very soon.. you just wait.
The pozzies were so sure he reverted back to an MVP caliber player. It was adorable, a bit like watching toddlers oogle at a guy in a Spiderman costume haha.
Now he can stop regressing. and start hitting again.
Hope so. Otherwise he will be worse than any of us thought.
sturg33
I
He's down to 0.1 WAR... he'll finish negative
I'll go ahead and say Kemp is a negative for this team. He is truly awful in LF. I didn't even think it was possible to be that bad. And I can't emphasize enough: this is not the environment I want a bunch of young pitchers coming into. Defense needs to be prioritized if you're going to prioritize pitching. Thankfully, by the time the team is good, the defense should be much better.
Sadly Kemp has 2 things going against him with bWAR. Obviously one is that DRS is not as kind to him as UZR is. And Baseball ref does include double play runs so if you hit into a lot of double plays it's going to hurt you too. He's at 0.0 bWAR now. Looks like this one is done.
Also moving to fWAR the Braves corner OF duo of Nick the Stick and Kemp are 11th and 15th worst out of all qualified OF's and have combined for 1.1 fWAR. Not sure if they will produce the worst corner OF production in the majors but I have to imagine they are somewhat close. I'll take a closer look at that later.
Also moving to fWAR the Braves corner OF duo of Nick the Stick and Kemp are 11th and 15th worst out of all qualified OF's and have combined for 1.1 fWAR. Not sure if they will produce the worst corner OF production in the majors but I have to imagine they are somewhat close. I'll take a closer look at that later.
msstate7
Well-known member
Yeah, its most likely over... I certainly think so. That said, a few weeks ago, you said he'd just need to maintain an ops somewhere in the mid-.800s (too lazy to look it back up), so things can change quickly. Who knows... maybe kemp ends up getting red hot again and traded to an al team. Either way, I just hope the braves keep winning
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think Inciarte can cover for the range deficiencies of one corner outfielder. But asking him to cover for two is a bit much.
To be fair I was giving Kemp the benefit of the doubt in regards to his baserunning and grounding into double plays. He's currently -5 runs with both of those combined and he's only been that bad once in a full season and that was 2014. He's continued to lose ground in that area and I was expecting it to normalize and be an early season fluke. That could still turn around but if he's continues to be bad in both of those he would need to compensate even more with his offense. He would probably need to finish around a 900 OPS if that is the case. Either way he needs to turn it around.
Sadly whatever Nick had working for him defensively last year and to start this season has completely vanished.
Kemp needs to stop normalizing and start hitting again. Just as he was just hot to start the season, he is just cold now.
I would be very surprised if he ends up with negative bWAR.
The most worrisome part of all this is the FO thinks both Kemp and Markakis are legitimately good players. Their inability to accurately evaluate MLB player value makes me doubt they can effectively patch holes on the roster when the team is ready to compete.
I would be very surprised if he ends up with negative bWAR.
The most worrisome part of all this is the FO thinks both Kemp and Markakis are legitimately good players. Their inability to accurately evaluate MLB player value makes me doubt they can effectively patch holes on the roster when the team is ready to compete.
Thing is, when Kemp is healthy...he is a hitting machine. He's not though, and doesn't look like he can stay healthy for long. If they are smart...they move him, even if they eat half of his contract. If he can just DH...I think he can stay healthy and produce...that's the only way for him now.
msstate7
Well-known member
Kemp was around 0.5 bWAR when he messed up his hamstring this time. He's attempted to play thru it and you see the results. He should be on the DL and hope he's ready to go 2nd half. He's not helping us right now and there's no way we'll ever move him continuing to run him out there lame
sturg33
I
We'd win more games with Danny Santana in left than Kemp
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
The point being we get too caught up in thinking that the lineup needs something very specific like "right handed power bat" when a more general focus on getting as many good well-rounded players on the field as possible would serve it better.
Freshmaker
Arbitration Eligible
I'd much rather have Kemp than Mallex. Mallex isn't a bad player, but 3 lefty OFs with no power is not good. We tried the all slap-hitters lineup a few years ago and it didn't work out so well. Kemp is sucking at the plate right now, but he's still got HR pop. We just need to stick him on the DL and let him heal.