Kenya mall attack

So you believe that the terroist acts in Africa are partially the US fault for instigating this violence?
 
Hold on. He's checking his Rand Paul fanboy reddit page to see if there are any answers.
 
thethe said:
So you believe that the terroist acts in Africa are partially the US fault for instigating this violence?
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Realistically - I'm sure it is related.

Osama was very vocal about US' aggression and used it to help him recruit more radicals. Al Queda leaders would target individuals who had family members/friends killed in conflicts, sanctions, or strikes. These are easy targets because they now want revenge. Once you have them in the group, you can get them to carry out missions on anyone.

Like I said, there are very few people who are just naturally willing to commit suicide unless they are seeking revenge. The US is a great tool for the radicals to grow their membership.
 
Also thethe, I'm glad you were able to understand the point unllike GF who is quite possibly the dumbest poster on the internet.
 
sturg33 said:
Realistically - I'm sure it is related.

Osama was very vocal about US' aggression and used it to help him recruit more radicals. Al Queda leaders would target individuals who had family members/friends killed in conflicts, sanctions, or strikes. These are easy targets because they now want revenge. Once you have them in the group, you can get them to carry out missions on anyone.

Like I said, there are very few people who are just naturally willing to commit suicide unless they are seeking revenge. The US is a great tool for the radicals to grow their membership.
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Speaking to your last point, its like I mentioned before with Zito. We are trying to rationally explain why these people are doing the things they are doing. The realty of the situation is that children are being brainwashed from birth that Western Culture is an extention of the devil and that Muhammed put them on this earth to destroy it. You can't stop that from happening and it has happened for hundreds of years. I have ALWAYS agreed that we strengthen the flames but as Billy Joel would say, "We didn't start the fire."

Again, the Boko Harim are attacking innocent civilians because they are learning non-Islamic facts. How can you negotiate with people like this? I don't believe it will go away if we ignore it either.
 
sturg33 said:
Also thethe, I'm glad you were able to understand the point unllike GF who is quite possibly the dumbest poster on the internet.
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You don't have a point. You never do. You sound like a teenager that read a Ron Paul book and now just repeats everything the guy said. Then when every anybody counters your claim, you run an hide for a day and then come back with more tin foil/Ron Paul crap.

You claim these terrorists only commit violence because they are bombed or having family members that have been killed by bombs in the ME. (yet to find 1 example, it's just more rhetoric) This is an example of Al Queda trying to take over Somalia and forcing their Sharia Law onto the people and Kenya helping to stop it. Thus, Al Queda goes and bombs innocent people at a shopping mall.

The way that you justify terrorist acts (and yes the U.S. has done some terrible **** as well) is disgusting. I just hope there aren't too many young, dumb, impressionable young idiots like yourself that believe what they are reading on the sites you find this crap. If you would actually talk to people that have been over to some of these countries (or been there yourself) you could talk with a more knowledgeable opinion. Go have a conversation with someone that grew up in Israel....someone from Iraq. Go talk to some soldiers that have had there feet on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq. Talk to them about what they believe. Or you can just read some more Ron Paul books about how the world only hates us because of bombings.
 
The only thing these people know is how to kill innocent people to make a point. I just don't get how anybody can defend/rationalize what they are doing. They even bomb eachother so its clearly not just a we hate America because they bomb us thing.

NOBODY GETS ALONG WITH RADICAL ISLAMISTS!
 
thethe said:
The only thing these people know is how to kill innocent people to make a point. I just don't get how anybody can defend/rationalize what they are doing. They even bomb eachother so its clearly not just a we hate America because they bomb us thing.

NOBODY GETS ALONG WITH RADICAL ISLAMISTS!
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They are taught from a very young age. it would be one thing if they just believed other religions were bad, but they believe people that believe in other religions should die.
 
gilesfan said:
They are taught from a very young age. it would be one thing if they just believed other religions were bad, but they believe people that believe in other religions should die.
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And its been going on for hundreds of years. They just finally have the technology and means of transportation to branch out and take their mission to other countries.
 
gilesfan said:
You don't have a point. You never do. You sound like a teenager that read a Ron Paul book and now just repeats everything the guy said. Then when every anybody counters your claim, you run an hide for a day and then come back with more tin foil/Ron Paul crap.

You claim these terrorists only commit violence because they are bombed or having family members that have been killed by bombs in the ME. (yet to find 1 example, it's just more rhetoric) This is an example of Al Queda trying to take over Somalia and forcing their Sharia Law onto the people and Kenya helping to stop it. Thus, Al Queda goes and bombs innocent people at a shopping mall.

The way that you justify terrorist acts (and yes the U.S. has done some terrible **** as well) is disgusting. I just hope there aren't too many young, dumb, impressionable young idiots like yourself that believe what they are reading on the sites you find this crap. If you would actually talk to people that have been over to some of these countries (or been there yourself) you could talk with a more knowledgeable opinion. Go have a conversation with someone that grew up in Israel....someone from Iraq. Go talk to some soldiers that have had there feet on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq. Talk to them about what they believe. Or you can just read some more Ron Paul books about how the world only hates us because of bombings.
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Reading comprehension is not your strongsuit. You should stop before you make yourself look like a bigger fool than usual.
 
thethe said:
And its been going on for hundreds of years. They just finally have the technology and means of transportation to branch out and take their mission to other countries.
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LULZ

LULZ LULZ LULZ

Sorry thethe that made me laugh my ass off.
 
So let me ask you guys. What explanation can you give why they send suicide bombers on their own people? Is that also the united states fault?
 
I've already clearly explained what the US part has been. I'm not gonna keep reposting the same thing over and over again.

The US doesn't make these guys terrorists, but the US gives them ammo and more importantly ammo to use against us. If the US was less involved over there, then they would focus their hate more locally. You have to realize the US is just used as recruitment and then they split attacks up to local and international interest.
 
So its the united states fault they bomb each other? Hysterical. Didn't realize the US had the power to make Sunnis and shia hate eachother.
 
thethe said:
So its the united states fault they bomb each other? Hysterical. Didn't realize the US had the power to make Sunnis and shia hate eachother.
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No it's not, but the US gives fringe groups a target so that when they attack they can make people feel part of a larger plan. Again without US intervention we'd have this on more of a local skirmish. Which is what both of these are, local skirmishes.
 
zitothebrave said:
No it's not, but the US gives fringe groups a target so that when they attack they can make people feel part of a larger plan. Again without US intervention we'd have this on more of a local skirmish. Which is what both of these are, local skirmishes.
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These people are predisposed to doing these types of things. They do not need reasons to do it. It would have happened naturally. They can't get along with eachother so it was obvious they wouldn't play well with others. They would have gotten NI (Needs Improvement) in kindergarten.
 
But they're allowed to have a recruiting base that wouldn't exist otherwise. Why do you think they don't bomb China? Or Japan?
 
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