Leftists are Child Mutilators

cajunrevenge said:
I support letting parents raise their kids how they want. As long as the parents cool with it I dont care.
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I would think someone who claims to be a libertarian would be 100% for this.

Parents with a puritanical bent can raise their kids according to their lights.

Other parents with a different bent can take their kids to a nude beach.

A chacun son gout.

I'm for giving parents lots of leeway in raising their kids before triggering calls for state intervention.
 
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nsacpi said:
I would think someone who claims to be a libertarian would be 100% for this.

Parents with a puritanical bent can raise their kids according to their lights.

Other parents with a different bent can take their kids to a nude beach.

A chacun son gout.

I'm for giving parents lots of leeway in raising their kids before triggering calls for state intervention.
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Do you support sex changes for children?

This is a simple.question to answer. I dont expect you to give a simple answer for the record
 
I support gender-affirming care for children. I think the state has an interest in regulating such care. If a state sees fit to prohibit genital surgery until 18, I'm ok with that.

We saw with the court ruling regarding Arkansas' law (and Governor Hutchinson's comments that the law was a vast government overreach) that a lot of these laws are unconstitutional attempts to deny care to a specific group of people and to further marginalize them. Fortunately, the legal system is unlikely to allow such laws to stand. But there is room for regulation that makes an attempt to strike the right balance. Someday states like Arkansas might even get around to trying to do so. Hope springs eternal.

Meanwhile parents who are puritanical and parents who are counterculture hippies deserve to be given the leeway to raise their children as they see fit. A position that every real libertarian would heartily endorse.
 
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It's extremely reasonable for a leftist to say some of this has gone to far

But that would be a sin against the national religion

And there is no bigger religious zealot than a communist

So they will keep defending
 
nsacpi said:
I support gender-affirming care for children. I think the state has an interest in regulating such care. If a state sees fit to prohibit genital surgery until 18, I'm ok with that.

We saw with the court ruling regarding Arkansas law (and the Governor Hutchinson's comments that the law was a vast government overreach) that a lot of these laws are unconstitutional attempts to deny care to a specific group of people and to further marginalize them. Fortunately, the legal system is unlikely to allow such laws to stand. But there is room for regulation that makes an attempt to strike the right balance. Someday states like Arkansas might even get around to trying to do so. Hope springs eternal.
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I've asked you many times... what is gender affirming care a s how.many genders are there
 
The term hermaphrodite is a very old one. Y'all might think all this is a new phenomenon. But the Ancient Greeks knew about non-binary folks. Much of Shakespeare's work features gender bending of various sorts. He celebrated the fluidity of gender identity. And his readers (400 years ago) lapped it up. He often used pronouns in ways that were ambiguous or contradictory. Y'all need to loosen up.
 
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nsacpi said:
The term hermaphrodite is a very old one. Y'all might think all this is a new phenomenon. But the Ancient Greeks knew about non-binary folks. Much of Shakespeare's work features gender bending of various sorts. He celebrated the fluidity of gender identity. And his readers (400 years ago) lapped it up. He often used pronouns in ways that were ambiguous or contradictory. Y'all need to loosen up.
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Do you support sex changes for children?

This would include, puberty blockers, hormone therapy to produce hormones that is not consistent with biological hormones, hormone suppression that is meant to stop biological hormones, mastectomies, & genital reconstructive surgery?

I'm not interested in an academic literature parable. These are real children of 2023 and beyond. Are you supportive of mutilating them?
 
I thought you were smart enough that I didn't need to say with exception to sexual abuse but here we are. I will try not to assume you have basic common sense in future posts.
 
I also would like to amend my statement about giving parents leeway to raise their kids as they see fit. If they fail to feed their children then obviously state intervention is justified. There are probably a few other things that I should list as justifying state intervention but my general point is that the presumption should be in favor of parents doing the right thang for their kids.
 
sturg33 said:
Do you support sex changes for children?

This would include, puberty blockers, hormone therapy to produce hormones that is not consistent with biological hormones, hormone suppression that is meant to stop biological hormones, mastectomies, & genital reconstructive surgery?

I'm not interested in an academic literature parable. These are real children of 2023 and beyond. Are you supportive of mutilating them?
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I suppose I'll bump again... knowing it won't get answered
 
Tapate50 said:
You think 8 year olds should make medical decisions on gender alteration?
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Do you think any eight year old anywhere in this country makes such decisions? It is a crazy thang to believe. But hey you are the one and only Ivermectin Man.
 
Another example of vast governmental overreach supported by our pseudo-libertarian friends bites the dust.

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The ACLU's lawsuit focuses solely on puberty blockers and hormone therapy. SB 150's ban on gender-affirming surgeries on minors, which already weren't happening in Kentucky, is not being challenged and will go into effect as scheduled Thursday.

Much of SB 150 went into effect immediately after lawmakers overrode Gov. Andy Beshear's veto of the measure in late March. The section prohibiting gender-affirming care was set to go into effect in late June, when most laws passed during the legislative session will go into effect.

Similar bans on gender-affirming health care across the country have been subject to legal scrutiny and subsequent restrictions in recent weeks. A federal judge stopped a similar law in Indiana earlier in June, and last week saw judges strike down a 2021 Arkansas law blocking gender-affirming medical treatments for minors and a set of Florida rules restricting Medicaid coverage for similar types of health care.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/ot...der-affirming-care-for-trans-kids/ar-AA1dbf1a
 
nsacpi said:
Another example of vast governmental overreach supported by our pseudo-libertarian friends bites the dust.

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Despite asking you several times with no answer, what does "gender affirming care" mean?

And how many genders are there to affirm?
 
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