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McCann'sCans
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The WaPo article has a bolded CORRECTION notice at the top of the article stating why they changed the headline. I could be wrong, but I imagine that when the Soviets changed headlines they weren't issuing a correction notice to describe why they updated the headline to be more accurate.
Ultimately, seems like the right move to me and something that you would be in support of given that the new leadline more accurately reflects your views. But, per usual, the preference is to get triggered and find outrage.
Ultimately, seems like the right move to me and something that you would be in support of given that the new leadline more accurately reflects your views. But, per usual, the preference is to get triggered and find outrage.
zitothebrave
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You can't make Trumpkins happy, and the play by no rules
acesfull86
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It’s the right move, but this is a pattern with WaPo and NYT. They’ve been doing a hell of a lot of correcting, and those corrections all seem to run in the same direction. Is it too much to ask they start getting things right? Or at least take it down a notch on these headlines/stories? They should take a step back and examine their biases.
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I agree. They are great newspapers and I enjoy reading both. But they have an ideological bias that affects their work too often (more so the Times than the Post imo). Everyone has an ideology. But a good editor/writer should make it hard for the reader to detect such a thing.
I will say (without making it an excuse) that reporting in the era of constant gaslighting and deza has its unique challenges.
People in the political arena have always done a certain amount of spinning. But the past five years have been very different. Alternate facts, inauguration crowd size. It has just gone on and on with no concern for truth and reality. It aint easy covering that ****. How do you cover the assertions of a Sidney Powell while being respectful to the world of facts and truth. It is easy to attach the word debunked to ever assertion she makes. But you have to be careful because not literally everything she asserts has in fact been debunked.
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McCann'sCans
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Largely agreed. Any news organization should consider their biases, and I'd love it if all news organizations would make their headlines less inflammatory. Unfortunately, no news organization does this other than maybe the AP. It is an unfortunate incentive situation where modern news is based on clicks and views more than it is on just communicating news, and it's a huge problem.
I would argue that while far from perfect the NYT is a relatively small offender in this regard compared to other news outlets, and I would also argue that the engagement algorithms on Facebook/Twitter are the true root of the issue. I would also much prefer that a news organization issue a correction than just leave up false reporting, which happens at many other places.
And the last thing that I would argue... it's pretty understandable for news orgs to make mistakes in rapidly changing situations where very few facts are known, as was the case with Covid at the time of this headline (and even now). That said, it would make your original point even more important: tone down the clickbait headlines, especially when a lot of things are unknown.
McCann'sCans
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Agreed. That was bad reporting. And it was corrected to reflect that it was bad reporting.
sturg33
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They reflected because the daily caller reached out for comment on the original headline
nsacpi
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How does the press cover something like this properly. It seems to me that a large part of the story here has to do with mental illness. Mental illness of the guy who occupied the oval office for the past four years. But that angle (the most significant one imo) hardly gets mentioned.
And then there is the story of mass delusion on the part of the one-third of the American people who believe **** like this. That's a very big story too. And a yugely undercovered one.
How does the press cover something like this properly. It seems to me that a large part of the story here has to do with mental illness. Mental illness of the guy who occupied the oval office for the past four years. But that angle (the most significant one imo) hardly gets mentioned.
And then there is the story of mass delusion on the part of the one-third of the American people who believe **** like this. That's a very big story too. And a yugely undercovered one.
nsacpi
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Brad Heath is a reporter for Reuters. Is it bad reportorial practice on his part to include the world "falsely" in this tweet? Would it be better reportorial practice to ignore the fact that Lindell's statements and actions are divorced from truth and reality?
Brad Heath is a reporter for Reuters. Is it bad reportorial practice on his part to include the world "falsely" in this tweet? Would it be better reportorial practice to ignore the fact that Lindell's statements and actions are divorced from truth and reality?
McCann'sCans
Gwinnett Bound
Good. I hope the NYT will do the same with Daily Caller headlines. More accurate headlines are a win.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Don't think this would be a good use of the NY Times' resources.
sturg33
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The press can and should report on it and we should all laugh at him and move on
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It does seem that it became more dangerous for journalists to do their jobs the past few years.
https://www.twincities.com/2021/06/...to-assaulting-wcco-photojournalist-in-duluth/
https://www.twincities.com/2021/06/...to-assaulting-wcco-photojournalist-in-duluth/
Dude, you’ll never move on. you bring him up more than anyone in this forum