Lol Bud Norris

[Heyward]

I will say this. I like Norris at $2.5m better than JA Happ at 3/$36m. Holy crap.

In fairness, Happ did really well down the stretch in Pit.

But that all changed when the Pirates added Happ in one of the least-discussed moves of the trade deadline. In his final 63 1/3 innings of the season, the southpaw allowed just 13 earned runs, three home runs, and 13 walks while striking out 69 opposing hitters. From MLBTR.

Not saying i would have given Happ that much and im fine with the Norris move. There's a TON of good FA SP's, gonna be interesting who goes where.

 

[zitothebrave]

It's a solid reminder of the faint wisdom of aquiring 30 starting pitcher prospects.

It's a solid reminder that if you're left handed it doesn't matter if you're good.

Admittingly Happ was a fantastic pitcher for Pittsburgh, but sucks.

 

[zbhargrove]

Happ made some changes last year and they worked great. I don't think he's the dumpster fire everyone thinks anymore. I think he figured something out and will be a really solid pitcher for the next few years.

 

[Enscheff]

I will say this. I like Norris at $2.5m better than JA Happ at 3/$36m. Holy crap.

That's a little more than the 3/30 predicted by MLBTR, but I think Happ was wise to sign early. The last thing those second tier pitchers want is to be the guy looking for a 1 year $10m contract in late January because every team has already made all their SP moves.

 

[nsacpi]

I expect Happ to be worth about 4 WAR over the life of that contract. Works out to be about 9 M/projected WAR. Seems pricey to me. ymmv

 

[zbhargrove]

Well, that's just like your opinion, man.

I do appreciate your reference here

 

[GovClintonTyree]

In fairness, Happ did really well down the stretch in Pit.

Not saying i would have given Happ that much and im fine with the Norris move. There's a TON of good FA SP's, gonna be interesting who goes where.

No, I saw that. Every now and then a great pitching coach makes a big difference, and Searage is a great pitching coach.

But still, $36m after 11 good starts? They almost DFAed him in Seattle in July.

 

[weso1]

I expect Happ to be worth about 4 WAR over the life of that contract. Works out to be about 9 M/projected WAR. Seems pricey to me. ymmv

Bold prediction... Happ won't be worth even 4 WAR.

 

[weso1]

Norris is exactly the type of player I want coppy to spend Braves money on. A potentional shot in the dark high upside guy. Makes me think Coppy knows what he's doing. That Olivera trade though.

 

[bravesfanMatt]

No, I saw that. Every now and then a great pitching coach makes a big difference, and Searage is a great pitching coach.

But still, $36m after 11 good starts? They almost DFAed him in Seattle in July.

With a guy like happ making 3/36. The Braves young stable of arms that are all under team control must look like fort knoxs to other teams.

 

[Hawk]

Happ made some changes last year and they worked great. I don't think he's the dumpster fire everyone thinks anymore. I think he figured something out and will be a really solid pitcher for the next few years.

He started throwing his fastball more and had a slate of favorable match-ups.

Hardly worth dumping 10/13/13 on. Wish him the best though.

And so begins the post-Anthopoulos era in Toronto.