Lolita Express is finally arrested.

If Trump was implicated in the Epstein scandal in any real way, it would’ve been used against him prior to the election.

Only reason I don't think the Dems used it is because Bill is probably in there too. And so long as Bill is alive, he's still a solid campaigner/asset for the dems as he's still pretty popular amongst middle class voters due to his 90's nostalgia.

If Bill were not alive the list would have probably been released already.
 
Only reason I don't think the Dems used it is because Bill is probably in there too. And so long as Bill is alive, he's still a solid campaigner/asset for the dems as he's still pretty popular amongst middle class voters due to his 90's nostalgia.

If Bill were not alive the list would have probably been released already.
I think that’s a possibility too
 
if it meant stopping Trump, they’d have used it … bill clinton be damned.

I think it’s pretty widely assumed he’s there anyway
 
Mr. Epstein’s private conduct has been the subject of intense public interest for years. In 2017, the gossip site Radar Online sued the F.B.I. in the Southern District under the Freedom of Information Act, seeking the release of certain documents related to the investigation and prosecution of Mr. Epstein.

In a declaration submitted in that case in January 2024, Ms. Comey wrote that releasing the documents could damage the government’s case in a potential retrial of Ms. Maxwell, including by subjecting witnesses “to possible embarrassment and harassment” that could make them less likely to testify.

Later that year, the judge overseeing that case sided with the F.B.I.

 
I don't know what is in the Epstein Files. But there is a large amount of information in the public domain showing the close relationships between Trump and Epstein and Trump and John Casablancas, and showing how these gentlemen trafficked in underage girls. The scandal is much less that the Epstein Files are being withheld from the public and much more that the public elected this guy president with all that is known about him. None of us can say that the country doesn't deserve to have him as president. It is a sad reflection on the country. We were not lacking in better choices in the primaries and in the general elections. Some people were uninformed. I can somewhat give those people a pass. Others found ways not to process the information and rationalized supporting him or not opposing him. I can't give a pass to those.

 
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if it meant stopping Trump, they’d have used it … bill clinton be damned.

I think it’s pretty widely assumed he’s there anyway

I dont see how you can say that when this was all released years ago publicly. Democrats are just dog shit at messaging. Trumps got 1000 skeletons in his closet and Democrats used none of them to their full potential. Trump to his credit pounced on every mistake Democrats made. Even attacking them from the left when he saw the opportunity.
 
I don't know what is in the Epstein Files. But there is a large amount of information in the public domain showing the close relationships between Trump and Epstein and Trump and John Casablancas, and showing how these gentlemen trafficked in underage girls. The scandal is much less that the Epstein Files are being withheld from the public and much more that the public elected this guy president with all that is known about him. None of us can say that the country doesn't deserve to have him as president. It is a sad reflection on the country. We were not lacking in better choices in the primaries and in the general elections. Some people were uninformed. I can somewhat give those people a pass. Others found ways not to process the information and rationalized supporting him or not opposing him. I can't give a pass to those.

A guy with a book to be sold has a hot take after 25 years! Crazy.

No one, not one person cares about your passes. Very telling you think anyone does.
 
Its pretty self absorbed. But that tracks.

The fact that Epstein and Trump were friends pre rumor mill is not new info. Kinda dumb you reposted it.
 
They show up 2 am in the hotel lobby with some girls under 17. Noteworthy. But not something that is going to move the needle for anyone around here or most folks around the country. By now people have dug in. We see it not just with Trump. Same suspects around here jumped in to defend Gaetz (another notable trafficker of underage girls).
 
A guy with a book to sell suddenly has stories he remembers vividly from 25 years ago with a 19 year old. WILD stuff.

The same way Joe Bidens daughter wrote about having uncomfortable showers with her father and you didn't bat an eye. No one cares about your opinions. It will come off less desperate when you can accept it.
 
A guy with a book to sell suddenly has stories he remembers vividly from 25 years ago with a 19 year old. WILD stuff.

When is the time that we can believe a claim? If it’s made when it’s in the news, they’re capitalizing on the hoax for personal gain. If it’s made during the election, it’s to hurt Trump. If it’s not made at all, it’s because there’s nothing and we shouldn’t believe other claims because some of the people didn’t make them too. It’s exhausting watching people defend Trump.
 
Its just best to understand everyones got an angle to make money and get their name out there. They ain't doing it out of the good of their heart.

Further with the lengths the Dems went to to have Trump imprisoned if you don’t think they’d have leaked a list to do so even if it burned their own- you weren’t paying attention
 
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Long interview with Tina Brown but towards the end she makes the point that I think should be kept at the forefront of all this:

Do you have any other specific questions that you would like answered?

Brown: I wish I understood why our government isn’t treating this like the crime that it is. It’s a serious crime that happened here. I don’t think there’s any dispute. I mean, this is something that actually happened. This isn’t a hoax. This happened to these women when they were very young.

It is surprising to some degree that they’re treating this as such a political issue and not treating it like it should be treated, which is a crime. And if the files are unsatisfactory or don’t contain credible evidence, then maybe they need to look a little deeper.

Maybe the answer is that we still have questions and we’re going to look into this more. But that’s not the answer the government gave. The answer they gave was: There’s nothing here. There’s nothing more to investigate. We’re done with this story. And I think the answer should be that obviously the public has a lot of questions and the victims still want justice, so we’re going to look at this a little further.

 
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