Machado or MooseTacos deal

If you put Machado in front of or behind Freeman the lineup gets really really scary.

I still think it would cost too much prospect wise to get him. People have to remember the Braves would have to outbid everyone else (except of maybe the Yankees since the O's might require more from a team in their division).
 
Machado will go wherever the money is. But yes, it would make a slight difference if the money were pretty similar.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
This may have already been posted, but:

Hearing the main players in the Machado trade sweepstakes are the Phillies & Braves, with the Cardinals a distant third. O's like ATL pitching prospects. Trade unlikely with PHI without Sixto Sanchez and/or Enyel De Los Santos. Looking for P and SS help. Cleveland also lurking.
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I wonder what prospects Baltimore likes.

The Wright/Gohara/Allard or Wentz/Touki/Fried etc.

I dont think Soroka would be involved.
 
Orphan Black said:
If you put Machado in front of or behind Freeman the lineup gets really really scary.

I still think it would cost too much prospect wise to get him. People have to remember the Braves would have to outbid everyone else (except of maybe the Yankees since the O's might require more from a team in their division).
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If Braves traded Julio just to get his salary off the books and declined McCarthy's option, they'd have around 26 mil or so pre-arb, so they'd have plenty of money to spend, question is if they would even come close to an offer for Machado.

You could still have a rotation of Newk, Gohara, Soroka, Folty, and Allard/trade/FA.
 
Heyward said:
If Braves traded Julio just to get his salary off the books and declined McCarthy's option, they'd have around 26 mil or so pre-arb, so they'd have plenty of money to spend, question is if they would even come close to an offer for Machado.

You could still have a rotation of Newk, Gohara, Soroka, Folty, and Allard/trade/FA.
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I think that figure is really low
 
Heyward said:
If Braves traded Julio just to get his salary off the books and declined McCarthy's option, they'd have around 26 mil or so pre-arb, so they'd have plenty of money to spend, question is if they would even come close to an offer for Machado.

You could still have a rotation of Newk, Gohara, Soroka, Folty, and Allard/trade/FA.
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I don't see anyone takes on Teheran's salary unless they were getting a lottery prospect like the Braves did with Touki.
 
Tapate50 said:
I think that figure is really low
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It is. But assuming Julio is traded and McCarthy's option is declined then I believe the only two players under contract (not league min or in arby) would be Freeman and Ender. Braves will have some cash to spend.
 
Tapate50 said:
I think that figure is really low
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If they declined McCarthy and Julio, the payroll would maybe start south of 50 million after arbitration. Freddie and Inciarte would be the only contract players on the team in that scenario.

That's 60-70 million to spend. Would have to sign 2 catchers. Then 1 OF, consider 3B, two rotation spots, and maybe a pen arm.

Catcher is costing Atlanta 6.5 this year.
 
Tapate50 said:
I think that figure is really low
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If they declined McCarthy and Julio, the payroll would maybe start south of 50 million after arbitration. Freddie and Inciarte would be the only contract players on the team in that scenario.

That's 60-70 million to spend. Would have to sign 2 catchers. Then 1 OF, consider 3B, two rotation spots, and maybe a pen arm.

Catcher is costing Atlanta 6.5 this year.
 
thewupk said:
It is. But assuming Julio is traded and McCarthy's option is declined then I believe the only two players under contract (not league min or in arby) would be Freeman and Ender. Braves will have some cash to spend.
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The Braves can already afford Harper or Machado...for 2-3 years...maybe 4 years. The recent infusion of young cheap players has made that possible for a short period of time.

They can pretty easily give Machado or Harper $35M+ in 2019, but they can't give them $35M+ for 10+ years and expect to field a competitive roster around them.

That's the problem, and is why the only chance they have is to front load a 10+ year contract and hope they opt out. It's a huge gamble that could potentially sink the Braves for a decade if it backfires.
 
Tapate50 said:
I think that figure is really low
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I meant in terms of big money players, without arb or pre arb. With that factored in, i think payroll would be 50ish million or so on a 120-130 million payroll so there's money to spend.
 
Thats a gamble I want to take. He would be 29 after 3 years and thats likely to be the 3 best years of his career. 10 more years would only put him at 39 the last year and someone is dumb enough to do that. Adding that kind of talent without having to trade any assets would be a huge boost for the organization. If he doesnt opt out it likely means those 3 yers didnt go so well but he could still be a good player the remaining 7 years. He could still be a valuable player in his mid 30's even if he isnt worth 35 million a year. Given the length and rapidly rising salaries it might look like a bargain by the time its over.
 
Enscheff said:
The Braves can already afford Harper or Machado...for 2-3 years...maybe 4 years. The recent infusion of young cheap players has made that possible for a short period of time.

They can pretty easily give Machado or Harper $35M+ in 2019, but they can't give them $35M+ for 10+ years and expect to field a competitive roster around them.

That's the problem, and is why the only chance they have is to front load a 10+ year contract and hope they opt out. It's a huge gamble that could potentially sink the Braves for a decade if it backfires.
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Meh. Just have to hold out until 2027. Hopefully the tv market hasn't completely cratered and the Braves can cash in like every other team.
 
Enscheff said:
The Braves can already afford Harper or Machado...for 2-3 years...maybe 4 years. The recent infusion of young cheap players has made that possible for a short period of time.

They can pretty easily give Machado or Harper $35M+ in 2019, but they can't give them $35M+ for 10+ years and expect to field a competitive roster around them.

That's the problem, and is why the only chance they have is to front load a 10+ year contract and hope they opt out. It's a huge gamble that could potentially sink the Braves for a decade if it backfires.
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I'd go for Machado over Harper.

But thats still a risk worth taking and also hoping payroll increases if Braves become a perennial playoff team.
 
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