I think getting anything for Kelly this year is a win considering how bad he's been.
Mets and Braves "close on a trade"
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I think getting anything for Kelly this year is a win considering how bad he's been.
UNCBlue012
Well-known member
That's awesome. He's a decent prospect with good potential from what I can see. KJ was horrible this year, so it's a wash.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Maybe the Mets are valuing him based on a normalization of his BABIP and plan on playing him somewhere other than second on defense. His defense at second has been atrocious. But I think it would be acceptable at third, left and first.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I really didn't think KJ had any value at all.. to get an orgs #16 prospect is pure Money!!!!
Dude can never play in the Majors and this is a win. Hell, it is not like KJ was a major leaguer this year!!!
I saw the Trade thread and was hoping for a team that had a tradable draft slot..
Dude can never play in the Majors and this is a win. Hell, it is not like KJ was a major leaguer this year!!!
I saw the Trade thread and was hoping for a team that had a tradable draft slot..
Probably has more to do with how he handled himself with the team last year but he should improve some.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
Johnson has reached the "permanent back-up" stage of his career and he's got versatility and some power, so he's a solid bench piece on a good team. Like the Morris pick-up. Like others have said, big arm who could develop.
http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016/?list=nym
Scouting grades: Fastball: 60 | Slider: 40 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 45 | Overall: 45
One other pitcher from the U.S. Virgin Islands made it to the big leagues before Morris made his Major League debut in June 2015. Like fellow St. Thomian Al McBean, who spent most of the 1960s pitching out of a bullpen, Morris has the chance to have an impact as a reliever at the highest level.
Morris' success in the Minors has come largely from his fastball-changeup combination. He'll pitch at 92-93 mph with his fastball, sometimes reaching back for 95-96 mph, and it has some good life to it. Morris will then throw what's best been described as a Bugs Bunny changeup, an offspeed pitch thrown at around 76 mph, with the same arm speed, causing a ton of swings and misses. Those two pitches alone, thrown with deception thanks to a funky delivery, are the reason he held Minor League hitters to a .163 batting average against through his first three summers of pro ball. Morris throws a slider, but it's fringy and needs work.
How much Morris' breaking ball, along with his command, improves will ultimately determine his role. He has the ceiling of a setup man, with a seventh-inning role perhaps more realistic.
Scouting grades: Fastball: 60 | Slider: 40 | Changeup: 60 | Control: 45 | Overall: 45
One other pitcher from the U.S. Virgin Islands made it to the big leagues before Morris made his Major League debut in June 2015. Like fellow St. Thomian Al McBean, who spent most of the 1960s pitching out of a bullpen, Morris has the chance to have an impact as a reliever at the highest level.
Morris' success in the Minors has come largely from his fastball-changeup combination. He'll pitch at 92-93 mph with his fastball, sometimes reaching back for 95-96 mph, and it has some good life to it. Morris will then throw what's best been described as a Bugs Bunny changeup, an offspeed pitch thrown at around 76 mph, with the same arm speed, causing a ton of swings and misses. Those two pitches alone, thrown with deception thanks to a funky delivery, are the reason he held Minor League hitters to a .163 batting average against through his first three summers of pro ball. Morris throws a slider, but it's fringy and needs work.
How much Morris' breaking ball, along with his command, improves will ultimately determine his role. He has the ceiling of a setup man, with a seventh-inning role perhaps more realistic.
Gotta figure they'll play him at 1B and 3B with Wright and Duda down. Really not a bad gamble on the Mutts' part IMO.
Figure Morris could step in as a Johnson or Ogando replacement if Coppy could somehow get something for either of them.
chop2chip
Well-known member
The only concern I have is blindsiding KJ considering he's signed back with us twice and he appeared to come here for strictly family reasons. Hopefully, this was ran past him first because I would rather not risk causing any bad blood with him or any other veterans on the team.
The return looks pretty nice though.
The return looks pretty nice though.
bravos4evr
Still Playing the Waiting Game
JxnMissFan
Gwinnett Bound
For the second year the Braves got a good return for KJ. Morris was in Mets top 25 prospects. In two years our bullpen will be made up of Mets prospects.
bravos4evr
Still Playing the Waiting Game
he went to the world series last year, I doubt he was too upset over the long term. (nor this year as he is back on a contender)
Quite sure he knew this was likely to happen before he signed - not much chance he was "blindsided". Given his ties to the organization, I'm sure they told him they'd make every effort to place him with someone who had a legitimate opportunity to win if this kind of situation occurred.
JxnMissFan
Gwinnett Bound
If you look at the MLB pipeline list of Mets prospects the Braves got the the Mets #4 Pitching prospect. I didn't realize the Mets were so thin at pitcher. If something happend to one or two of the Mets stud big league pitchers they are in trouble.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Neither trade is a big deal. But I want the front office to do better than win one, lose one on these kinds of trades. Maybe the guy they got for Chacin is a sleeper. Time will tell. But I would have liked to do better. There was little downside to waiting for a better offer.