Would be nice to see him or Newcomb manage to overcome their control issues and become consistent starters. Either have the talent to do so. But as Deester said, Sims has done this for 7-8 start streaks many times over the years, I'd need to see him do it for a full season before I get excited. Hopefully he can/has turned the corner.
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Would be nice to see him or Newcomb manage to overcome their control issues and become consistent starters. Either have the talent to do so. But as Deester said, Sims has done this for 7-8 start streaks many times over the years, I'd need to see him do it for a full season before I get excited. Hopefully he can/has turned the corner.
Why does it matter? He's already been written off.
Because I don't think he has the command to be in a MLB starter. His strikeout ability is more suited for late innings reliever.
zbhargrove
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I would love to see the Seattle player development department exposed with Pike/Gohara/Jackson succeeding. All 3 of those guys have started their Braves careers on the right foot and could really come back to bite the Mariners
Self scouting is often the most important scouting.
He certainly hasn't shown the command yet. But to say best case is reliver is not accurate IMO. Unless you thinks it's possible for a young pitcher to refine control there is a scenario where his control improves slightly and he is a potential MOR pitcher.
Anything is possible. I just don't believe it will happen.
The cake is a lie
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It's amazing how butt hurt people get over an opinion.
Unless you think every single one of our arms is going to become an ace, then I think it's OK for people to have opinions on the ones that won't make it
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By trading a huge amount of young quality assets for pitching, and using your high draft picks exclusively on pitching.
Hopefully a few of them pan out.
I'd rather have gone the Cubs/Astros strategy... but the FO is omniscient so I have faith they will nail it
Of course most are going to fail. I just think its absurd to write-off a 18/19 year old who has barely even pitched yet.
Who was the hitter that was available via trade or in the draft that the Braves should have drafted. Where was the Bryant/Schwarber/Correa/Springer/Bregman? The Braves have been incredibly aggressive in the Latin American market. Isn't that not enough? They could potentially have 3 hitters in the top 50 next years top prospects. They traded from their pitching surplus to get a very high ceiling bat. Is that not enough? How many do you want? This is a more balanced approach then you would think.
Southcack77
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Cubs strategy was spending a lot of money on free agents/international market and buying low in trades.
sturg33
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I just answered your question...
The Braves traded Heyward for a pitcher.
The Braves traded Upton for a pitcher
The Braves traded Gattis for a pitcher
The Braves traded Simmons for a pitcher
The Braves traded Kimbrel for a pitcher
The Braves traded $10M in cap space for a pitcher
The Braves used the 14th pick in 2015 for a pitcher
The Braves used the 28th (their second) pick in 2015 for a pitcher
The Braves used the 3rd pick in 2016 for a pitcher
The Braves used the 40th (their 2nd) pick in 2016 for a pitcher
The Braves used the 44th (their 3rd) pick in 2016 for a pitcher
That is why the Braves have so much pitching.
Heyward turned into Inciarte/Swanson
Upton yielded us Fried/Gohard/Du Peterson (showed a lot of promise)
Gattis got us Ruiz (meh)
Simmons yes
Kimbrel was a bad move to get rid of Melvin
So again, where were the hitters that were available? Its easy to say Braves traded for pitching and didn't try for hitting without knowing the discussions. Its all speculation. They traded these guys and picked the best available players. Can you really be upset with the 15/16 drafts at this point? The 15 draft has the potential to be the type of draft that keeps us int he postseason for 6-8 years.
Guess how they got their starting SS!?!?!?!!?
Its such a lazy argument to say look at how the Astros/Cubs did it.
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Dude... you asked a question and I answered it. How do we have so much pitching? We traded nearly every asset we have for pitching. That's how.