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Listening to Moore babble on about God I wonder is divine intervention election fraud? Roy keeps saying he will win because God is on his side but if we all have free will then would Jesus be changing votes to help him win? Jesus isn't even a US citizen. In fact he is a terrorist according to people like Moore because they say Jesus creates natural disasters on purpose.

If it's not illegal for Jesus to change votes then what if I used some witchcraft to change votes? Would that be illegal?

Also what does it say that the person who won the Republican presidential nomination was the only guy who didn't say God told him to run.
 
Republicans better start paying attention. The majority of this country is not on board with the shift further and further to the right. The accusations against Moore were just tip of the iceberg for that lunatic.
 
Back to the original post of this thread, I think Reps are happier with this outcome than if Moore had won. Big losers? Trump, Bannon and Southern Evangelicals. Hard to count Moore as the 'big' loser. He's probably better off playing the victim.
 
Republicans better start paying attention. The majority of this country is not on board with the shift further and further to the right. The accusations against Moore were just tip of the iceberg for that lunatic.

The majority of Alabama was certainly on board with the shift further to the right. What they were not on board with was a specific candidate that had a frightening combination of sleeze, pervert, and weirdo.
 
exit polls

The African-American vote according to exit polls exceeded expectation by over 5 points.
My guess there was a good bit of backlash (white and black) to (R) policy, get out the vote by (D) and a dependable candidate with an admirable record

White exit polls will explain some of yor point but from my reading the Trumps approval was as much a factor in the white vote as the deplorability of Moore.

Let it not be lost that Trump supported not one but two losing candidates in the same race.
Less than one year into his Presidency
 
Would a deep blue state do what Alabama did tonight given the same circumstances? Something to think about. A lot of folks on the left dismiss the conservative south as simpleton moral hypocrites. I hope this helps lead to a renewed respect from those on the left in regards to southern conservatives and I hope they're more willing to consider our arguments and consider maybe that southern conservatives take morality more serious than was thought? Trump might have a rough time winning Bama next election if the left respects the conservative south.

i think so. dems are forcing their harassers out of office. most of the republican assaulters/harassers are being enabled by people saying it didn't actually happen and attacking the women coming forward. i think, as goldfly said earlier, a lot of dems (including myself) would have strongly considered voting for Kasich had he won the nom.
 
Precisely. And if we're talking about things which would unequivocally tarnish actual, important (and fledgling) Republican brands, it would be wagon-hitching to an admitted gay persecutionist or civil liberties eschewer or any of the other number angles you could absolutely nail Moore on.

That he's skipping away from all of these things, completely unscathed, is disheartening to me on so many levels.

if republican voters in alabama cared about those things so much he wouldn't have won the primary in the first place. it was very obvious the kind of person he was and his views have been public for a while. i don't think most people in alabama saw that stuff as a negative. "evangelicals" certainly don't.
 
Republicans better start paying attention. The majority of this country is not on board with the shift further and further to the right. The accusations against Moore were just tip of the iceberg for that lunatic.

What's been happening both nationally and in Alabama has more to do with lunacy than shifts along the political spectrum. And it was good to see that even in Alabama there is a point when a majority will say that's just crazy.
 
Back to the original post of this thread, I think Reps are happier with this outcome than if Moore had won. Big losers? Trump, Bannon and Southern Evangelicals. Hard to count Moore as the 'big' loser. He's probably better off playing the victim.

Some Southern Evangelicals didn't vote for Moore. How does that make then losers?
 
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Listening to Moore babble on about God I wonder is divine intervention election fraud? Roy keeps saying he will win because God is on his side but if we all have free will then would Jesus be changing votes to help him win? Jesus isn't even a US citizen. In fact he is a terrorist according to people like Moore because they say Jesus creates natural disasters on purpose.

If it's not illegal for Jesus to change votes then what if I used some witchcraft to change votes? Would that be illegal?

Also what does it say that the person who won the Republican presidential nomination was the only guy who didn't say God told him to run.

As one who believes in the sovereignty of God and personal responsibility for one's actions, that means I believe that God sovereignly ruled over this election and that all who voted are also responsible for their votes. And may Moore clown himself only from here out.
 
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The majority of Alabama was certainly on board with the shift further to the right. What they were not on board with was a specific candidate that had a frightening combination of sleeze, pervert, and weirdo.

^^^ This adding his racist views.
 
exit polls

The African-American vote according to exit polls exceeded expectation by over 5 points.
My guess there was a good bit of backlash (white and black) to (R) policy, get out the vote by (D) and a dependable candidate with an admirable record

White exit polls will explain some of yor point but from my reading the Trumps approval was as much a factor in the white vote as the deplorability of Moore.

Let it not be lost that Trump supported not one but two losing candidates in the same race.
Less than one year into his Presidency

Sessions war on pot is all about suppressing the black vote. When blacks vote 90+ % for their opponent it's easy to see why they push draconian laws.
 
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