Obviously the Heat have OWNED the Thunder the last two years. But, with Wade continually deteriorating that could change quickly. Did you watch the THunder this year when RW was playing? It was a thing of beauty.
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Obviously the Heat have OWNED the Thunder the last two years. But, with Wade continually deteriorating that could change quickly. Did you watch the THunder this year when RW was playing? It was a thing of beauty.
BRule
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Last year OKC - 105 PPG and gave up 96.5. They had an ORating of 112.4 and a DRating of 102
THIS year OKC - 105 PPG and giving up 98 PPG. They have an ORating of 109.8 and a DRating of 102
Soooooooooo, ACTUALLY, they were better last year but very close....so yeah, nothing special this year. It's the same Thunder team, the same one that gets destroyed every time they play Miami.
THIS year OKC - 105 PPG and giving up 98 PPG. They have an ORating of 109.8 and a DRating of 102
Soooooooooo, ACTUALLY, they were better last year but very close....so yeah, nothing special this year. It's the same Thunder team, the same one that gets destroyed every time they play Miami.
Last year was with RW. Both RW/KD got better and they were killing it again.
BTW, what were the Heats comparative numbers?
BRule
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RW has missed what....20-25 games? Do you really they their PPG and OPPG are that much off? KD is more than making up for whatever O you're missing.
You live in the moment and you think everything is greater than what it actually is because you can't compartmentalize things and look at the big picture. This team isn't beating Miami, assuming Wade is healthy which he should be since they are resting him every chance they get. I have my doubts OKC makes it out of a MUCH tougher Western conf this year, compared to last.
OKC is going to **** around and sit with the same team, year after year and piss away KDs prime.
You live in the moment and you think everything is greater than what it actually is because you can't compartmentalize things and look at the big picture. This team isn't beating Miami, assuming Wade is healthy which he should be since they are resting him every chance they get. I have my doubts OKC makes it out of a MUCH tougher Western conf this year, compared to last.
OKC is going to **** around and sit with the same team, year after year and piss away KDs prime.
So they are pissing away his prime becuase they haven't won a title yet? This team was on the verge of making back to back finals. Even if they lost to Miami last year why is that need to break up the team? Jordan lost to the Pistons three straight years before he got over the hump. Your agenda against RW is just strange. The Thunder get better every year and assuming RW is healthy they will steamroll the West and will win the title this year.
Heyward
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Heyward
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Whose to say Mia even makes it past the Pacers?
If Wade isnt healthy, they arent getting past them.
Also, KD isnt even in his prime yet so how exactly are they pissing it away?
The West is tough but with Russ healthy, OKC is as good as any if not the best.
BRule
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Have you watched the Pacers play recently? I'll take Miami all day over their team unless they find a second wing and/or PG.
BRule
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The whole Western conference has gotten better, did you miss that? It would be one thing if Houston, GSW, Portland, LAC sat around and didn't get better.....but they did.
The Thunder got better to...you know in case you missed it. The Thunder also have generally the two best players on the court at all times except when they are playing a select few teams that have one guy who is better than RW and when Miami is the opponent and Lebron is the best player.
Heyward
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So because they lost a couple games means what, exactly, are they supposed to win every game?
A road trip where they had.
Phx (playoff team atm), Sac, Den (on a B2B, nearly impossible to win there off a B2B), GS, and LAL.
They've also already had road games at SA, OKC, LAC and a few others. Most of their top road games are over with.
Indiana wasnt going to keep up the pace they were up.
Every team has ebs and flows throughout the year.
Or what?
Pacers are a tough matchup for Miami.
West and Hibbert are a handful. Hibbert hurts the most.
Paul George has the length to bother/disrupt LeBron.
Basketball is all about matchups and Indiana is a very tough matchup for Miami.
Btw, i'd probably pick Miami to beat them but Indiana is good. Again, every team goes through ups and downs through the season.
I agree that the Pacers are slacking a bit but they do match up well with Miami. The thing with Miami is to have a rim protector and a bunch of different guys to throw at Lebron.
Heyward
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Oh, and the Thunder havent gotten better?
KD and Russ keep getting better (scary i know)
Ibaka has improved.
Reggie would be in the mix for 6th Man of the year if Russ never went down.
Guys like Lamb, PJ, Adams, etc.
Also, it comes down to this, who in the West can stop KD and Russ when he's healthy?
BRule
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Numbers suggest they are worse than last year, equal at best.
I'm not going to go back and forth on this again and again....I'll take the other top teams in the West, you can have OKC.
The numbers without a top 10 player show they are about the same. Lets put that top 10 player back on the team and see what happens.
BRule
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WITH RW this year: 105.6 PPG and gave up 98.9 per game
WITHOUT RW this year: 104.5 PPG and giving up 97.1 per game
Sooooooooooooooooooooooo, like I said.....no real difference. 1 point per game less in scoring and are actually almost 2 points per game BETTER on D.
Which means what? They have actually been BETTER without Russ. Boom
Heyward
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Is that why they were 21-4 i believe with Russ and without him they were basically steam-rolling everyone?
While without him, they struggle and have to grind out games.
You can put those stats out there all you want. Bottom line is that the Thunder were dominating this year with RW in there. They would take all there starters and other teams would catch up. Like you said, this is pointless to discuss anymore. We will have to see what happens.
BRule
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This is stupid even for you....the numbers I JUST posted show the Thunder are +6.7 with RW. Without RW they are +7.4
Please share with him how those numbers jive with what you just said....this should be good.