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thethe said:
So you know he wont be a good coach?
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Didn't say that.....I think there are a lot better choices for OKC. I don't see Donovan mixing well with that roster or getting them over the top.

Donovan would be a really good fit for Orlando but they won't go back to him after what he did last time.
 
I have no clue about Donavon so I can't comment.

Who were the better choices for OKC?

Why won't he mix well with that roster?
 
thethe said:
I have no clue about Donavon so I can't comment.

Who were the better choices for OKC?

Why won't he mix well with that roster?
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Thibs
Ollie
Gentry
Jackson

Donovan is a very intense, my way or the highway kind of guy...don't see him and RW mixing well together. He's never had to deal with the superstars, even at FL he wasn't getting super hyped guys with big ego's....other than Beal but Beal is a super quiet guy with no ego. I just wouldn't pick a college coach to get his first job with RW / KD / Ibaka and RW and KD can possibly leave next year and the year after. I'd rather hire a guy that has been in the NBA and can control the locker-room and has done this before.

Donovan might be a good NBA coach but it probably won't be in the next year or 2, it's a giant gamble that OKC is taking.
 
thethe said:
I have no clue about Donavon so I can't comment.

Who were the better choices for OKC?

Why won't he mix well with that roster?
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I don't enough about Donovan to comment on this as well. He wouldn't have been my first choice. Mainly because he has no experience coaching experienced players who have more power than himself. How he handles Russell is going to define his success. In that regard, he's a complete unknown.

I liked Alvin Gentry for them. He's basically the offensive coach for GS and was Dantoni's right hand man in Phoenix. I would have loved to see OKC run that style of offense. I'm not saying Donovan won't, so we will wait and see what he will do there.
 
chop2chip said:
I don't enough about Donovan to comment on this as well. He wouldn't have been my first choice. Mainly because he has no experience coaching experienced players who have more power than himself. How he handles Russell is going to define his success. In that regard, he's a complete unknown.

I liked Alvin Gentry for them. He's basically the offensive coach for GS and was Dantoni's right hand man in Phoenix. I would have loved to see OKC run that style of offense. I'm not saying Donovan won't, so we will wait and see what he will do there.
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Yes, I think we talked about this before....Gentry was perfect for them. Sad he isn't friends with Presti like Donovan is....lots of NBA guys liked Gentry as a fit in OKC.
 
BRule said:
Yes, I think we talked about this before....Gentry was perfect for them. Sad he isn't friends with Presti like Donovan is....lots of NBA guys liked Gentry as a fit in OKC.
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Amin Elhassan talked about the OKC culture about how business like they are. He didn't feel like Alvin's easy going, joking nature would fit in over there.
 
OKC just needs to be healthy and everything will fall into place. Oh yeah, they also need #35 to re-sign.
 
thethe said:
OKC just needs to be healthy and everything will fall into place. Oh yeah, they also need #35 to re-sign.
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That's not remotely close to being true, you can't just throw any coach into a situation with a ton of talent and expect a ring. See Brooks, Scott.

This is an EXTREMELY big decision for OKC....just don't see how gambling on a college coach is the right move.
 
chop2chip said:
Amin is one voice in a sea of support for Gentry.

And Gentry doesn't need Amin's pull. His credentials speak loud and clear.
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There are reasons that some guys aren't coaches. Some make better assistants. A coach in the NBA is becoming like a coach in the NFL. You are managing the whole operation. You have an offensive nad defensive coach and you make sure the practices are being ran the way you want and is most condusive to team building/learning.
 
BRule said:
That's not remotely close to being true, you can't just throw any coach into a situation with a ton of talent and expect a ring. See Brooks, Scott.

This is an EXTREMELY big decision for OKC....just don't see how gambling on a college coach is the right move.
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Its highly possible that Brooks wins a ring if the big three had been healthy each of the last three years. They just need to be healthy. THe team is as talented as it ever was. Now they have to go into the cap and keep Kanter because even if they let him walk they can't add any other talent. Just put all the pieces together and let it run.
 
thethe said:
There are reasons that some guys aren't coaches. Some make better assistants. A coach in the NBA is becoming like a coach in the NFL. You are managing the whole operation. You have an offensive nad defensive coach and you make sure the practices are being ran the way you want and is most condusive to team building/learning.
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That's not fair to say about Gentry, he was good in Phoenix.
 
thethe said:
There are reasons that some guys aren't coaches. Some make better assistants. A coach in the NBA is becoming like a coach in the NFL. You are managing the whole operation. You have an offensive nad defensive coach and you make sure the practices are being ran the way you want and is most condusive to team building/learning.
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Gentry is a great basketball mind that is universally liked. The Thunder don't need a "team builder". They need a system.

(Also, if you recall the situation the Warriors new coaching staff walked into last year with the whole team pissed that Jackson was fired, I would say Kerr and Gentry did a great job building a team culture).
 
BRule said:
That's not fair to say about Gentry, he was good in Phoenix.
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Until he wasn't. Its not a knock on someone that they are a better assistance than head coach. It goes the other way. Someone like Jason Kidd could never ben an assistant coach but he is looking like he could have a very good head coaching career.
 
chop2chip said:
Gentry is a great basketball mind that is universally liked. The Thunder don't need a "team builder". They need a system.

(Also, if you recall the situation the Warriors new coaching staff walked into last year with the whole team pissed that Jackson was fired, I would say Kerr and Gentry did a great job building a team culture).
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I do not doubt that Gentry is a great offensive basketball guy. But a head coach is much different than an offensive assistant coach. You can't just assume that he is going to do that any better than Donavon. Honestly, mostliy anyone could install a better offensive system than the Thunder have had under Brooks and it still was top 5 consistently. I want a coach that is more willing to play the young guys because even with KD/RW/Ibaka that is going to be essential moving forward.
 
Kevin Ollie has experience coaching big headed ego players? In his two whole seasons as a head coach.

This is news to me.
 
BRule, regarding your coaching options:

Thibs - Obviously I would love it but if your criticsm of Donavon as being an intense in your face guy than I think Thibs and cornered that market

Ollie - Huge unknown...even moreso than Donavon. Also, I think its time to make it that KD/RW are a little uncomfortable. They were able to run the show too much with Brooks and I suspect it would be the same with Ollie

Gentry - We've discussed. I wouldn't have minded him being brought in

Jackson - Talk about awful offensive schemes? Its not a bad option but the quantum leap that GS made when he left is damning if you ask me.
 
chop2chip said:
thats not the argument for Ollie. Ollie would be huge in getting Durant and Russ to stay long term because they are all really good friends.
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I don't believe that KD/RW are going to make the decision to stay in OKC based on if they are friends with the coach. There are way more important factors to consider IMO.
 
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