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- Thread starter zitothebrave
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People are making too many assessments based on a stat sheet around these parts. Stat sheets are misleading on younger players when predicting growth.
Should Samuel Dalembert have been maxed?
When he was younger I think it would have made sense. Now he is a good rim protector but awful everywhere else.
Saying someone is terrible now doesn't necessarily mean they will be terrible for their entire career. That's something you can't wrap your head around with Adams either (not saying he's terrible)
Noel needs a lot of help to even sniff any max player consideration.
BRule
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BWAHAHAHAH WHAT????
Never said I woudl do it but I would understand why a team would have depending on the supporting cash and their contract situations. Didn't Dalambert get one huge contract anyway?
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Noel is also a lot more talented than Dalembert.
Noel needs to make some improvements on offense (which he is already starting to do) to get max. His defense is already at max player level.
chop2chip
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I would hope that would mean his usage rate would drop from 40% which would put his numbers back in line with his career rates.
thethe, you really think Samuel Dalembert should have been a max player?
To compare the two, Noel is much skinnier/weaker than Dalembert but still at a young age where you hope he gets better. Though there are plenty of others with the same offensive liabilities that never got better.
Right now, he's basically Dalembert. Slightly better defensively, somehow worse offensively. Noel is just a pathetic offensive player. He's not a great rebounder (mainly bc he's non existent as an offensive rebounder).
To compare the two, Noel is much skinnier/weaker than Dalembert but still at a young age where you hope he gets better. Though there are plenty of others with the same offensive liabilities that never got better.
Right now, he's basically Dalembert. Slightly better defensively, somehow worse offensively. Noel is just a pathetic offensive player. He's not a great rebounder (mainly bc he's non existent as an offensive rebounder).
BRule
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He got 60 mil for 6 years but that wasn't close to a max deal back in 2006.
Game was a lot different when Ratliff played. It was less of the pace and space so the defenses weren't as stretched. Therefore, your rim protection wasn't as dependent on one man as it is now. If Ratliff played in today's game I think there would be teams that would consider it for sure.
Also, I didn't say that Noel is a max player right now.
Oh it better. But, imagine a PnR with Kanter/Adams with KD/Morrow/Ibaka on the wings. That is some serious space. Morrow has been great for the Thunder (as predicted!)
BRule
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Good call on Ratliff.......I see that and Larry Sanders. If he adds a ton of weight and develops some offensive moves or a shot at all, maybe he turns in to a Tyson Chandler, maybe.
And Ratliff was still a much better shot blocker.
