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thewupk said:
Well no that's not ideal. But over 162 games it doesn't matter.
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Sorry, I still don't agree. Numbers are great for a lot of things, and overall they may say Upton has been overwhelmingly positive. But the real life situations affected by being one of the worst hitters in the league for a 2-month period is huge, and really hard to make up for, despite overall numbers.

Besides, his OPS is in the high-.700s. He may get paid like an elite player/hitter when he isn't one. I'm nope-ing out on him.
 
yeezus said:
Sorry, I still don't agree. Numbers are great for a lot of things, and overall they may say Upton has been overwhelmingly positive. But the real life situations affected by being one of the worst hitters in the league for a 2-month period is huge, and really hard to make up for, despite overall numbers.

Besides, his OPS is in the high-.700s. He may get paid like an elite player/hitter when he isn't one. I'm nope-ing out on him.
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I disagree... what really matters is the overall production.

If I'm in a stock - and it craps the bed for two months, but in the overall, it's up 15%... then that is a winner.
 
sturg33 said:
I disagree... what really matters is the overall production.

If I'm in a stock - and it craps the bed for two months, but in the overall, it's up 15%... then that is a winner.
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terrible example

a stock doesn't have a window of a couple months and isn't directly competing against another stock or stocks to "win"
 
goldfly said:
terrible example

a stock doesn't have a window of a couple months and isn't directly competing against another stock or stocks to "win"
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I just wanted to get the liberals on the board in a tizzy :FrediConfident:

But I still stand by it...

It's like an entire team - if they are terrible for 2 months of the year, but overall are good - then I see no issue
 
why would what you said about stocks upset liberals?
Your #4 hitter better hit a HR or two every game if he's going to hit under .200 for two months at a time.
 
Personally I would never want a cleanup hitter that was only good on even numbered days no matter how good he was on those days. It puts too much pressure on the rest of the team on odd numbered days.
 
Personally I prefer my #4 hitter be among the league's worst hitters for long stretches. The rest of the team will be thinking, "no where to go but up!" Until he crashes back down, preferably in the playoffs.
 
yeezus said:
Sorry, I still don't agree. Numbers are great for a lot of things, and overall they may say Upton has been overwhelmingly positive. But the real life situations affected by being one of the worst hitters in the league for a 2-month period is huge, and really hard to make up for, despite overall numbers.

Besides, his OPS is in the high-.700s. He may get paid like an elite player/hitter when he isn't one. I'm nope-ing out on him.
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First off this year hasn't been one of his best so far but the season isn't oer yet. Secondly using his raw OPS while at Petco doesn't mean much. And lastly, yes you can be a piss poor hitter for 2 months of the year and still provide excellent value as a hitter. Andruw instantly comes to mind with his 2005 season when he dropped 50 homers. He was horrible in April and September but the inbetween was amazing. Pretty sure he helped out the team quite a bit on the offensive side that year.
 
yeezus said:
Personally I prefer my #4 hitter be among the league's worst hitters for long stretches. The rest of the team will be thinking, "no where to go but up!" Until he crashes back down, preferably in the playoffs.
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Bravo! Your wit overfloweth.
 
nsacpi said:
Bravo! Your wit overfloweth.
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Aye, yours, too! Keep the recurring jokes coming! Nothing like the feel of beating a lifeless horse. I love it.
Nothing like being in a playoff race and having your #4 hitter hit .190! I love it, really. And then hopefully, if you make the playoffs, he'll hit .160 there! The best.
 
Eury Perez = Mallex Smith, therefore we can probably somehow conclude Cameron Maybin = Justin Upton. So we already have Upton!
 
yeezus said:
Nothing like the feel of beating a lifeless horse. I love it.
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Me too, I do it practically every night.

Nothing like being in a playoff race and having your #4 hitter hit .190! I love it, really. And then hopefully, if you make the playoffs, he'll hit .160 there! The best.
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But if he was on a hot streak and single-handedly carried your team through the playoffs he'd be hailed a hero. I think a lot of it depends on the cast of characters surrounding him. Upton would fit in well on a team where he isn't forced to be THE offensive centerpiece.
 
Hawk said:
Me too, I do it practically every night.

But if he was on a hot streak and single-handedly carried your team through the playoffs he'd be hailed a hero. I think a lot of it depends on the cast of characters surrounding him. Upton would fit in well on a team where he isn't forced to be THE offensive centerpiece.
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Not all hitters can be Mark Lemke
 
Hawk said:
Me too, I do it practically every night.

But if he was on a hot streak and single-handedly carried your team through the playoffs he'd be hailed a hero. I think a lot of it depends on the cast of characters surrounding him. Upton would fit in well on a team where he isn't forced to be THE offensive centerpiece.
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That's kind of the thing with JUp, though. I have no confidence he won't get eaten alive by great pitching.
And yeah, when you're counting on solely him, you're probably going to be in trouble. Which is why I have no desire to pay him what the market will likely dictate.
 
yeezus said:
Aye, yours, too! Keep the recurring jokes coming! Nothing like the feel of beating a lifeless horse. I love it.

Nothing like being in a playoff race and having your #4 hitter hit .190! I love it, really. And then hopefully, if you make the playoffs, he'll hit .160 there! The best.
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Not as much fun as obsessively scapegoating former players and talking up whatever mediocre dross your club brings in.
 
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