Next Move?

GovClintonTyree said:
I'll bet they do. Now that he's torn out the framing, he needs to just gut it to the ribs. I'd just like to see a couple hitters coming the other way. One more AA pitching prospect "with a great arm, just needs work on his secondary pitches and get his BB/9 under 6.0" and I'm gonna commit Harry-Caray.
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Braves are perusing O Day potentially as a closer and Thorton. Not sure why they view O Day as a closer and rather go after Bastardo instead of Thorton
 
O'Day doesn't make much sense considering his price tag. He's rumored to be looking for 4 years @ 36 million. Personally, I wouldn't go over 3 years and 20 million for any reliever considering our other needs.
 
Carp said:
O'Day doesn't make much sense considering his price tag. He's rumored to be looking for 4 years @ 36 million. Personally, I wouldn't go over 3 years and 20 million for any reliever considering our other needs.
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They may have been just messing with the Dodgers. Bidding them up..

YYYUUUUUPPPPPPPPP!!
 
What a waste of money. If they sign O'Day at anywhere near his supposed asking price then I'm officially a meganega-Brave for the foreseeable future.
 
A couple of reliable bullpen arms are probably the most cost-effective way to tack on a couple wins to the current roster, given last year's debacle. Considering that we have some better internal options this year, committing a substantial money to a reliever would be a questionable move, though. I guess that anyone we added would be trade bait at the deadline.
 
chop2chip said:
Our buffoons that cover the Braves wouldn't know a scoop unless it came from Baskin Robbins.

I'll trust Rosenthal, thank you very much.
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Agree with your sentiment, but burning dollars on relievers given what they've acquired over the last year is silly. So maybe Bowman guessed right.

Excellent post, BTW. Really captures their essence. Eau de Baskin
 
Thornton's 39, so he'd probably just require a one-year, relatively moderate cash commitment. That also means he's always just one moment away from losing it completely, but for a pen in ungodly need of competent arms, he makes some sense.

O'Day...I love the guy, and not just because he's a Gator and was co-relief ace on the 2005 College World Series Florida team I worked with while I was interning at the Sports Information Department. He's an exceptionally underrated reliever, a guy with a career 185 ERA+, 8.7 K/9 and a nearly 4/1 K/BB ratio. Unfortunately, his asking price doesn't really make sense for us, and I don't know if it would even if we were competitive- four years for a 32-year-old reliever is an awfully tough pill to swallow.
 
I wonder if we might consider Marcell Ozuna, since he's clearly fallen out of favor in Miami. Betting on his upside and seeing if you can make a big-time player out of him seems like a reasonable idea for a team preparing to play an outfield of Olivera-Maybin-Markakis.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Breaking news. Braves considered signing Greinke and/or Price. That ended when someone saw MLBTR's contract predictions.
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:Bowman:

"There is reason to believe that the Braves front office yearned to sign one of the top tier free agent pitchers on the market to bolster the top of their rotation, but after seeing the contractual demands that each one was asking for their interest has waned to the point that there is zero chance that one will see them in a Braves uniform any time soon."
 
Seitzer tells Bowman he has reason to believe Hector Olivera will do well . . .

"We got to hang out quite a bit," Seitzer said. "I was so impressed by his work ethic, his intensity, his focus and concentration to detail. It was really awesome. I was really impressed by how much more athletic he was in the outfield. It was fun to watch."
Olivera has batted .235, compiled a .304 on-base percentage and recorded just two extra-base hits (both doubles) through 51 at-bats in Puerto Rico. He's also struck out just once within this small sample size. But it goes without saying that Seitzer's assessment provides more encouragement than these statistics.
"I don't care what level of pitching you're facing, to put that kind of percentage of balls in play is pretty awesome," Seitzer said. "His groundouts aren't exactly little dribblers, swinging bunts like we saw a few of in September. The dude has the ability to put the fat part of the bat on the ball, which is impressive. That's the biggest part of the battle. Now it's just a matter of getting used to the adjustments mechanically to the point where the power starts to come."
"He's a gap-to-gap guy," Seitzer said. "I see him hitting 15 to 20 home runs. If he can hit more than that, then great. If he can drive in 80 [runs], that's great. If we get more than that, that's icing on the cake. He's a pretty talented kid. I think he's going to make adjustments quick."
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http://m.braves.mlb.com/news/article/157772110/braves-kevin-seitzer-high-on-hector-olivera
 
dak said:
Seitzer tells Bowman he has reason to believe Hector Olivera will do well . . .

http://m.braves.mlb.com/news/article/157772110/braves-kevin-seitzer-high-on-hector-olivera
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1. He's not a "kid" - he has little to no physical projection left; the ceiling upside is all in how he potentially translates those mechanics to MLB ball.

2. His PR performance leaves a lot to be desired. Having a penchant of squaring up a baseball does not correlate to multiple weak groundouts to SS or 2B.

3. If he is successful, he seems like he'd project to be a league average (or slightly above average) corner OF offensively (defense remains a question mark). That's hardly a player I would have parted ways with Wood and Peraza for.

4. I still hate the trade, so I readily admit it colors my assessment of Olivera. I'm rooting for him to make me eat crow.
 
ramadon101 said:
1. He's not a "kid" - he has little to no physical projection left; the ceiling upside is all in how he potentially translates those mechanics to MLB ball.

2. His PR performance leaves a lot to be desired. Having a penchant of squaring up a baseball does not correlate to multiple weak groundouts to SS or 2B.

3. If he is successful, he seems like he'd project to be a league average (or slightly above average) corner OF offensively (defense remains a question mark). That's hardly a player I would have parted ways with Wood and Peraza for.

4. I still hate the trade, so I readily admit it colors my assessment of Olivera. I'm rooting for him to make me eat crow.
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I'm with you. I'm still baffled by the trade. The fact the Dodgers were willing to move a guy that they handed that contract to just a few months earlier should have set off warning bells. I'm seriously concerned that this guy isn't just going to fail to provide value equivalent to what we gave up for him, I'm afraid he's going to be just plain bad.

The hitter I saw in September looked to be overmatched in the majors. The fact he hasn't exactly lit up Puerto Rico is really discouraging. So not only do we have to be concerned with this guy's age, there are huge questions of ability and health. This guy was a real winner of a return.
 
striker42 said:
I'm with you. I'm still baffled by the trade. The fact the Dodgers were willing to move a guy that they handed that contract to just a few months earlier should have set off warning bells. I'm seriously concerned that this guy isn't just going to fail to provide value equivalent to what we gave up for him, I'm afraid he's going to be just plain bad.

The hitter I saw in September looked to be overmatched in the majors. The fact he hasn't exactly lit up Puerto Rico is really discouraging. So not only do we have to be concerned with this guy's age, there are huge questions of ability and health. This guy was a real winner of a return.
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Don't let Coppy read this, he might go headhunting for you!
 
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