Officers Help Struggling Family

gilesfan said:
Apparently arresting criminals based on the numbers you keep harping on.
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I think my issue with all of the arrests in this country is we spend precious time and resources locking people up who have never committed a violent crime.

Land of the free - who locks people in cages more than any other country in the world.

And I'm supposed to be worried about foreign governments taking away my freedom?
 
sturg33 said:
I think my issue with all of the arrests in this country is we spend precious time and resources locking people up who have never committed a violent crime.

Land of the free - who locks people in cages more than any other country in the world.
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Land of the free refer to being able to commit crime without being punished?

I would venture to guess it's tougher to get away with crime in the US than it is in other countries.

What percentage of crimes are committed in the US vs. other countries? (impossible to know)
 
gilesfan said:
Land of the free refer to being able to commit crime without being punished?

I would venture to guess it's tougher to get away with crime in the US than it is in other countries.

What percentage of crimes are committed in the US vs. other countries? (impossible to know)
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The issue is not locking up people for committing crimes. The issue is why they are crimes to begin with. I think over 30,000 new laws went on the books on Jan 1 this year. With the amount of laws in this country - I can reasonably assume that we're ALL guilty of something.

It's a crime in this country to drink at 20 years, and 364 days. But it's not the following day. Ever downloaded an MP3 song? You're a criminal. Hey - one framer got arrested for collecting rain water. Apparently, smoking a plant in your basement, while harming nobody, deserves the utilization of a jail cell.

Land of the free.
 
Ask the Chinese during ww2. Ask all the people that lived in the Russian Satellite countries after ww2 how free they were under Stalin

what are the people in Hong Kong protesting about?

What did IsIs do to the people in the areas they conquered that didn't believe in what they did?
 
sturg33 said:
uhhhhhh... is this a serious statement?

You do realize that the vast majority of Jews in the holocaust were German citizens, right?
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That doesn't mean anything to my Polish Grandfather who was put on a freight train and shipped to a concentration camp.
 
Krgrecw said:
Ask the Chinese during ww2. Ask all the people that lived in the Russian Satellite countries after ww2 how free they were under Stalin

what are the people in Hong Kong protesting about?

What did IsIs do to the people in the areas they conquered that didn't believe in what they did?
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OK - so since you truly believe you made a good point, can you elaborate on how our foreign conflicts right now are "protecting my freedom?"

I'd argue they are eroding my freedom - what with things like the Patriot Act, DHS, NDAA, etc.
 
thethe said:
That doesn't mean anything to my Polish Grandfather who was put on a freight train and shipped to a concentration camp.
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Yeah - as was my girlfriend's grandfather. Sad stuff. War mongering countries who decide to go to other countries and impose their will are pretty terrible.

Good thing we don't do anything like that
 
sturg33 said:
Yeah - as was my girlfriend's grandfather. Sad stuff. War mongering countries who decide to go to other countries and impose their will are pretty terrible.

Good thing we don't do anything like that
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Amazing that you truly believe we are like previous governments like Nazi Germany. Not saying the US is innocent and there always going to be multiple reasons why the US decides to engage another region but to liken it to things like this is just sickening.
 
thethe said:
Amazing that you truly believe we are like previous governments like Nazi Germany. Not saying the US is innocent and there always going to be multiple reasons why the US decides to engage another region but to liken it to things like this is just sickening.
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I knew you were going to go there.

The US isn't on those levels. Those dictators did that to their own people. We haven't done that.

That doesn't make what we're doing to foreign countries any better... The families of all the innocent folks who died probably don't see it much differently.
 
Krgrecw said:
You inferring that Brown wouldn't ultimatley try to kill him? Was Brown just going to beat him up?
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We don't know that. The cop panicked, plain and simple and when Brown reached for his gun, he did what he had to do. If he stayed in the car waited for backup, a person would be alive and in jail, a cop would have kept his job, the business owners wouldn't lose their businesses. He made a stupid bone headed decision and this is what happens when using no common sense.
 
AA, it wasn't the cops fault that Brown committed a crime and Brown went for the officers gun. Don't blame the arson on the cop
 
sturg33 said:
The issue is not locking up people for committing crimes. The issue is why they are crimes to begin with. I think over 30,000 new laws went on the books on Jan 1 this year. With the amount of laws in this country - I can reasonably assume that we're ALL guilty of something.

It's a crime in this country to drink at 20 years, and 364 days. But it's not the following day. Ever downloaded an MP3 song? You're a criminal. Hey - one framer got arrested for collecting rain water. Apparently, smoking a plant in your basement, while harming nobody, deserves the utilization of a jail cell.

Land of the free.
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So should 20 years and 360 days be legal? 19 years and 30 days? 18 years and 14 days? 15 years and 10 days?
 
Krgrecw said:
AA, it wasn't the cops fault that Brown committed a crime and Brown went for the officers gun. Don't blame the arson on the cop
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No it wasn't his fault on the crime or the arson. It was his fault for being a f-ucking idiot that did not use any common sense. That city/county has some stupid policies. He wouldn't do that here, you wait for backup.
 
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