Officers Help Struggling Family

Krgrecw said:
I work in that Industry. If she or anyone else like her needs help we'd help her. No excuse for shoplifting though.
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I can understand for a watch or some material NOT NEEDED THING, but for 50 cents in a food product for your kids. She had money but not enough and desperate.

You are so sad. I bet you've have stolen material in your home right now and don't say you don't because 99.5 % of Americans have done it already.
 
goldfly said:
if i couldn't afford providing for my family on my salary

i wouldn't give it a 2nd thought to shoplift to get what i thought was needed for my family

not really sure how that is a crazy statement
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NEEDED, not some bling or schit like that, but a food product.
 
Tomahawking4life said:
It's is never right to do wrong.
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The first thing policer officers or those who protect them are 100% saints and that isn't true. It is like throwing stones at a glass house. Do not tell me you have not committed any crime whatsoever in your life, especially shoplifting. Even taking a pen from a colleague at work and never giving it back is a crime. By definition it is stealing.
 
AerchAngel said:
I can understand for a watch or some material NOT NEEDED THING, but for 50 cents in a food product for your kids. She had money but not enough and desperate.

You are so sad. I bet you've have stolen material in your home right now and don't say you don't because 99.5 % of Americans have done it already.
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I've accidentally taken home a Pen or something from work (like we all have) but I've never shoplifted or intentionally stole from another person.

If people need help with food there are plenty of ways to get help; churches, soup kitchens, just ask someone, food banks etc. she didn't have to steal it
 
Krgrecw said:
I've accidentally taken home a Pen or something from work (like we all have) but I've never shoplifted or intentionally stole from another person.

If people need help with food there are plenty of ways to get help; churches, soup kitchens, just ask someone, food banks etc. she didn't have to steal it
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Then why didn't you say that at the beginning? I do agree with you in right/wrong but we were NOT in her shoes at that particular time. Desperate times sometimes bring desperate measures and this nice cop saw how desperate she was and did something about it. He saw she had money but not enough to feed her family. Wow, common sense took over and he did the right thing. You or Gilesfan would have arrested her, Toma would probably done what this cop did.

You always go to a criminal card or worse case scenario. You know what is more criminal to/for her, not feeding her kids.
 
AerchAngel said:
Then why didn't you say that at the beginning? I do agree with you in right/wrong but we were NOT in her shoes at that particular time. Desperate times sometimes bring desperate measures and this nice cop saw how desperate she was and did something about it. He saw she had money but not enough to feed her family. Wow, common sense took over and he did the right thing. You or Gilesfan would have arrested her, Toma would probably done what this cop did.

You always go to a criminal card or worse case scenario. You know what is more criminal to/for her, not feeding her kids.
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Like I said in my first post I would had helped her out. I wouldn't had sent her to jail. I go to a criminal card because it was a criminal act. You can't have criminals do criminal acts and get away with it.

I have sent plenty of people to jail for shoplifting. I have also let people slide for stuff like this.
 
AerchAngel said:
Then why didn't you say that at the beginning? I do agree with you in right/wrong but we were NOT in her shoes at that particular time. Desperate times sometimes bring desperate measures and this nice cop saw how desperate she was and did something about it. He saw she had money but not enough to feed her family. Wow, common sense took over and he did the right thing. You or Gilesfan would have arrested her, Toma would probably done what this cop did.

You always go to a criminal card or worse case scenario. You know what is more criminal to/for her, not feeding her kids.
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Agreed. Arresting someone is not always the answer. Arresting her will lead to her going to jail and getting a record which makes it even more difficult for her to get a decent job. What happens if she loses her kids? I am a foster parent/sister and trust me the foster care/adoption system stinks. If your not a "little white baby" you are doomed if you do not find a decent family.

I applaud the cops for doing the right thing. As a society we need to figure out a way to help people. Stealing is wrong but giving her a record that will only hurt her & her family is much worse.
 
Krgrecw said:
Like I said in my first post I would had helped her out. I wouldn't had sent her to jail. I go to a criminal card because it was a criminal act. You can't have criminals do criminal acts and get away with it.

I have sent plenty of people to jail for shoplifting. I have also let people slide for stuff like this.
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You could have avoid saying it at all. Praise what the cop did and then drop the rest, but I think you put the other part in there on purpose. Common sense would say, that was a nice thing the cop did, just hate someone had to resort to petty theft of 50 cents to feed her family.

But no, you had to be judgmental.
 
AerchAngel said:
Do you prefer her beg on the street corner?
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Why does it have to be one or the other, as if my only 2 options are steal or beg on the street?

Too many other options. Friends willing to help, family willing to help, doing odd jobs for extra cash. I also know plenty of churches that would help out if I went and told the pastor I needed food.
 
AerchAngel said:
You could have avoid saying it at all. Praise what the cop did and then drop the rest, but I think you put the other part in there on purpose. Common sense would say, that was a nice thing the cop did, just hate someone had to resort to petty theft of 50 cents to feed her family.

But no, you had to be judgmental.
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I had to be judgmental? Aren't you the one who said that 'Giles and I would had sent her to jail'? That's pretty judgmental

I like you AA, so I don't want to bicker on here.

Something in this story doesn't make sense. She'd should be getting $1,500 a month for food for having 5 kids in her household.
 
Tomahawking4life said:
Why does it have to be one or the other, as if my only 2 options are steal or beg on the street?

Too many other options. Friends willing to help, family willing to help, doing odd jobs for extra cash. I also know plenty of churches that would help out if I went and told the pastor I needed food.
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She was at the store, had every intent on paying for the food, she was 50 cents short. We do not know how far she had to travel, we do not know if she ask another individual to cover the cost, which probably everyone on this board would have giving her. We do not know how hungry those kids are. There are too many factors in here stealing for 50 CENTS. She was probably thinking, I have to walk, drive, ride a bike back home to my starving kids with nothing, how pathetic is that. She took the chance knowing 50 CENTS is not going to hurt anyone and in the end it was a blessing.

If she stole a watch, clothes anything non food product (alas not needed) I would have arrested her, no questions ask. Especially not for 50 CENTS. Kr came off as someone who said you are a THIEF and he himself admitted taking a pen home, which cost more than 50 cents. Do you think I am going to get on him about it and call him a criminal, no. That was not even a need, surely he has one laying around the house somewhere where this lady had NO FOOD to provide for her family.

We do not know the whole story of her predicament.
 
Krgrecw said:
I had to be judgmental? Aren't you the one who said that 'Giles and I would had sent her to jail'? That's pretty judgmental

I like you AA, so I don't want to bicker on here.

Something in this story doesn't make sense. She'd should be getting $1,500 a month for food for having 5 kids in her household.
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Just next time think about what you post. We know you don't like any criminal activity and I don't either. I did not defend MB stupid decision - just both sides didn't use any sense, don't agree with Garner in what he did - again both sides wrong, but I can actually sympathize with this women and the desperate nature of taking care of your family. This is where I say use common sense when proving a point.

Now, I do agree, she should have money to take of those kids and I find it fishy as well, but we can only speculate at this time.

If you do help people out, I appreciate what you do for people.
 
This is what bothers me.

Remember rhe story over the summer of the black women charged with child neglect because she went to a job interview and left her kids in the car because she had no one to watch the kids? It was all over the news. Big pity party for her. Donations to her family went over $500k.

The judge, like everyone took pity and let her slide. Told her to save the money for her kids college and to get a job.

You know how that story ended?

She wasted the $500k on a rap record for herself, never got a job and now the judge is holding her to those charges of neglect.

That's why you can't automatically jump to the pity party.

Now this story. The cops have been to her place a few times. Why? She has different generations living there. Why? She should be living good off the gov't. Where are all those gov't funds going?
 
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