msstate7
Well-known member
Competitive balance.
Thank God the nfl realizes that you can't just let big markets out spend small one by ungodly amounts. One of the many reasons that mlb might as well be an amateur sport compared to the nfl
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Competitive balance.
Thank God the nfl realizes that you can't just let big markets out spend small one by ungodly amounts. One of the many reasons that mlb might as well be an amateur sport compared to the nfl
Is there a single owner not worth billions? Want to be competitive? Spend your money. Good teams draw fans. The Rays are an exception because their stadium is atrocious and they don’t make splashes that excite fans. Owners have the money, they just don’t want to spend it. I won’t cry for them.
That's the point though. MLB should force these teams to spend money. But they would rather be greedy
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Just because an owner is worth 2.5 billion doesn't mean he should spend a billion on his team. If I own a company with a Million in revenue.. why should I increase expenses to 2 million just because I am worth 10 million dollars. Not unless I know I will get that ROI on my million. These guys didn't get to be rich because they are stupid. The biggest issue with MLB is the RSN.. The major market teams are raking in money on RSN.. this should all be controlled by MLB and evenly distributed.
msstate7
Well-known member
That would be a huge equalizer.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
There's also no guarantee that Olson and Acuna are going to repeat the seasons they had. That's why they play the games.
Dodgers still have issues. They really don't have a shortstop on the roster (Lux isn't one even before his injury) and their bullpen is iffy (at least to me). They've spent a ton of money and we'll see if they spent it wisely. I doubt Yamamto is Kurakami, but they are expecting him to be Darvish (at the very least) and I think there are questions as to the wisdom of that bet. Even after the Glasgow trade, their minor league system is still in the area of the top five or so, which means they still have the prospect capital to land Cease (less likely or Burnes (more likely). I always pictured Friedman as a bit risk averse, but he's gone all-in this off-season. Might work. Might not.
This is exactly correct. NFL splits TV revenue equally among all teams, which allows all teams to more or less be on equal footing in terms of payroll. That revenue model allows the hard cap to work, and allows parity along teams over time.
I’d argue parity among all teams in the NFL is a big reason for its success relative to baseball, second only to the fact their schedule allows every game to be a weekly event rather than a nightly routine.
striker42
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The players union always fights against a hard cap but I have to think there's a way to get them on board. First, divide the TV revenue evenly among every team and institute a salary floor. Basically shift some of the money being spent away from the Dodgers and Yankees and to the Marlins and Pirates. Second, increase the revenue sharing with the players. Use revenue sharing with the players union to guarantee just as much if not more money goes to the players. Yes it would be evenly distributed so the truly elite players would end up with less than they get now but the vast majority of players would end up with more. Finally, increase the major league minimum and make all players eligible for arbitration after 2 years.
I think you can find ways to get the players union on board.
I think you can find ways to get the players union on board.
Remember when Ted Turner figured out a way to make more money from TV, so MLB changed the rules to take away their competitive advantage?
Time to do the same with the big market teams. Change the rules for the good of the game and remove their competitive market advantage.
Time to do the same with the big market teams. Change the rules for the good of the game and remove their competitive market advantage.
I'm just afraid it will hurt us. MLB actions rarely benefit us it seems and things are going well.
If the NFL had the same revenue rules as baseball the Packers would not be able to compete with the big market teams. The parity the NFL system creates is a key to the popularity of the sport. And players still get their fair cut of revenue, even with cap, so those arguments are illogical.
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
I disagree that MLB does not have parity. The issue with MLB play is that a handful of owners are not trying to win and just trying to make money through the revenue sharing that is there.
The NFL is winning b/c the USA loves the violence and the one game per week. More stakes.
MLB model is getting some of the best teams in the playoffs every year, enough turnover that there are new teams, and a wide variety in WS champs.
MLB champs:
Rangers
Astros
Braves
Dodgers
Nationals
Red Sox
Astros
Cubs
Royals.........f'n Royals
Giants
Red Sox
Giants
Cardinals
Giants
Yankees
Phillies
Red Sox
Cardinals
Withe Sox
Red Sox
Marlins.......Marlins
Angels
Diamondbacks
Yankees
striker42
Well-known member
WS variety is due more to the random chance that is the playoffs more than parity. Look at the teams making the playoffs. You see a lot of the same ones over and over. Us included.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I think MLB also introduced fake parity by allowing have the league into the playoffs and knowing playoff baseball is wildly random. But teams winning divisions and constantly being better than 75% of the other teams is not parity. spending a billion dollars on 2 players while other clubs have payrolls between 100 million and 200 million is not parity.. It needs to end before baseball dies because we get tired of seeing super teams win every year. and eventually that will happen.
On the other hand, that randomness inherent to baseball does dampen the benefit of the $300M team. While I agree that $300M will get into the playoffs more often than the $100M team, once they are in the playoffs the advantage is largely mitigated.
So the financial situation allows super teams more chances at the title, but once the peasant teams get in they tend to have a decent shot at winning it all. Still not perfect parity, but it could definitely be worse.
So the financial situation allows super teams more chances at the title, but once the peasant teams get in they tend to have a decent shot at winning it all. Still not perfect parity, but it could definitely be worse.
Southcack77
Well-known member
Their personal wealth is irrelevant.