Pacheaholic
Arizona Fall Leaguer
Yes, why would we want a guaranteed ace when we could let AA blow another draft pick on a sure bust? You can probably give him a little more per year if he agrees to make the last few years of any deal, option years.
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Yes, why would we want a guaranteed ace when we could let AA blow another draft pick on a sure bust? You can probably give him a little more per year if he agrees to make the last few years of any deal, option years.
wanna bet?
Pacheaholic
Arizona Fall Leaguer
Machado was lucky to get the $30M a year he did. Only the Padres are that dumb. Harper was forced to take 3 extra years just so he could say he got the $300+ Million he wanted.
If Cole signs for only 5 years it will be for something like ~35 per. If he goes for 6+ years it will be for ~30 per.
Don’t let the aggressively ignorant posters influence what you already know: the Braves aren’t signing Cole.
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Besides. Will anyone want Cole after he gets lit up tonight?
Clueless. So very very clueless.
GeorgiaGirl
NL Rookie of the Year
The thing that really smart teams actually do is to identify the next Cole and fine tune their pitches instead of paying for the work a team did.
Well only one team seems to be doing that right now
Southcack77
Well-known member
I'm not quite sure what opening day payroll is going to look like, but if they just run everyone back they're sitting at about 100m right now. If that opening day payroll is something like 125m, then Grandal might be (like Donaldson) the only major move the Braves make in free agency. So I'm not sure you have a whole lot of opportunity to add that bigger piece at 3B.
You'd basically be hoping for that production to emerge organically.
I still would like for them to explore trading some pitching for controllable position player talent.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
What position? Our best internal positional talent are two infielders (Riley and Shewmake) and a couple outfielders (Waters and Pache).
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I think we can stretch for both Donaldson and Grandal if we pass on Teheran and go cheap with respect to the rotation.
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I will pay your Chopcountry membership dues if Cole gets 35 million or more on AVV. He'll need to get 7/245 in order to do that. Certainly possible, but I don't see it. I'm gonna guess 7/220. Barely breaking Price's record for pitchers.
Southcack77
Well-known member
Do we have much evidence that the Braves are an organization that is particularly good at doing that?
That's what we hoped would happen with Gausman and not much changed with him. (Not that Gausman was anywhere near as good as Cole).
These things sound nice in theory but until you have actual evidence of it happening in reality, then there isn't much reason to expect it.
Southcack77
Well-known member
Donaldson at 23 and Grandal at 20.
Cut Teheran and you're basically at 90m. That's puts you at about 132, which means you are going with pre-arb or scrap heap on the pitching to maintain even a semblance of flexibility.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Yup. That would be my plan A. Plan B would be one of Donaldson/Grandal and having a bit more $$ for a starting pitcher.
Hudson2
Well-known member
Grandal, Moose, and a trade for say Marte would be a better use of the money honestly and give us a better lineup
So I know this is outside the box but if we re-sign Donaldson and add Grandal would it then make sense to move on from Freeman. I feel like we could get a lot of value back in a trade and could use Grandal at 1st to keep his bat in the lineup on days he’s not catching. Maybe look to sign Kendrick to split time with Grendal there.
Southcack77
Well-known member
So you are looking at
Acuna
Albies
Freeman
Donaldson
Grandal
Markakis
Swanson
Inciarte
(Duvall, Riley, Pache?)
Yeah, that probably works from a hitting standpoint.
Soroka
Fried
Folty
?
?
Melancon
Greene
Jackson
....
Solid start of a pitching staff, but the devil is in the details. Braves got very little out of the internal options to fill it out last year. And of course they Braves also had awful luck. If it repeated season go
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Yeah those ?? in the rotation are really big question marks. As I posted earlier we could fill them a number of ways:
1) 2 young uns
2) a scrap heap project like Anibal
3) Newk given another shot in the rotation
4) Trade for a pitcher who is controlled at a low salary
Please for the love of god no more Markakis. I’d be much happier working a Joyce/Duvall platoon in LF