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IslandBrave said:
Seems like a lot of people believe we have a deal in place with Tristan Beck at 41
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Is there more than this report?

Drafting an injured pitcher with saved bonus pool money SOUNDS like a Braves thing to do, but there are so many other clubs in a position to do that.

I approve of drafting T. Beck at 41 though.
 
50PoundHead said:
It's my hope we don't get too creative this year. Just draft guys who will sign for around slot and not try to manipulate things too much. And if we want to move money around, just draft a set of college seniors in Rounds 6 through 10 and push all the banked bonus money forward instead of saving money at the front of the draft and going above slot later.
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I agree, though I think it could work out where we get a guy I really like at 5 and still save some money. Austin Beck is likely going no higher than 7 if we don't take him, so we could at least save roughly $700,000 if we took him, which would allow us to go to about $2.3 million at 41, which is equal to #28 money. That could be enough to get Tristan Beck. But if we had to go any higher than that at 41, I wouldn't like it.
 
I've really started liking Lewis more and more... I think I'm at;

Gore, Lewis, Haseley in that order now.

Of course NOBODY has Gore falling to #5 anymore, so it might not matter what we think of him.
 
Listened to the last Road to Atlanta Podcast, apparently some talk that Lewis might be able to stick at SS and play well there.

Obviously that would only increase his value; but it does bring back up the question of where do you play all these guys.

If Maitan and Lewis are shortstops, where do you play Soto, Cruz, and Vasquez - especially considering that you also have to find ABs for Pena, Severino and I'm sure a couple others that I'm forgetting. Obviously this isn't a reason to avoid Lewis if you feel like he's the best player there, you take him and figure it out later, but it does create a bit of a logjam.
 
Bowden just now about Beck on XM...

"60 Run, 60 power, 60 arm, and 55 hit tool. Plus-plus bat speed, and will do damage. There are going to be a handful of teams that will make a huge mistake because they're sleeping on him."

Going to have to have a couple beers and ponder for a bit later, but think I'm leaning Beck/Beck too. Have long been big on Austin at #5, but think adding both Becks (assuming you can do it) adds an awful lot of ceiling, AND could make more arms expendable in deals.
 
Southcack77 said:
Is there more than this report?

Drafting an injured pitcher with saved bonus pool money SOUNDS like a Braves thing to do, but there are so many other clubs in a position to do that.

I approve of drafting T. Beck at 41 though.
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The only "report" I've seen is that BA said "many believe he's already arranged a deal with A team".

I've not seen anything that indicates anyone has mentioned that Atlanta is that team.
 
clvclv said:
The only "report" I've seen is that BA said "many believe he's already arranged a deal with A team".

I've not seen anything that indicates anyone has mentioned that Atlanta is that team.
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Longenhagen said a few weeks ago that he'd heard a decent amount about the Braves and Tristian Beck.
 
As long as the top four goes as expected, I really just want Lewis. I still have serious questions about Austin Beck's ability to make consistent contact.
 
clvclv said:
The only "report" I've seen is that BA said "many believe he's already arranged a deal with A team".

I've not seen anything that indicates anyone has mentioned that Atlanta is that team.
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Yeah, that was the one posted here, but it was in context of the Braves draft. Seemed thin to me. I wondered if it was mentioned because it seemed Bravesy.
 
CJ9 said:
Longenhagen said a few weeks ago that he'd heard a decent amount about the Braves and Tristian Beck.
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The statement was made that "a lot of people" seem to think we have a deal in place with Tristan Beck.

Hearing a decent amount certainly doesn't mean that - we've all heard a decent amount about the Braves and any number of players.

There may be someone who has linked the Braves to Beck (Island Brave in post #777) as the team he's assumed to have a deal with, but as of now, no one has produced that quote from an industry source.
 
clvclv said:
The statement was made that "a lot of people" seem to think we have a deal in place with Tristan Beck.

Hearing a decent amount certainly doesn't mean that - we've all heard a decent amount about the Braves and any number of players.

There may be someone who has linked the Braves to Beck (Island Brave in post #777) as the team he's assumed to have a deal with, but as of now, no one has produced that quote from an industry source.
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I've seen it a couple other places and the guy at Tomahawk Take says he's heard it all Spring
 
clvclv said:
The statement was made that "a lot of people" seem to think we have a deal in place with Tristan Beck.

Hearing a decent amount certainly doesn't mean that - we've all heard a decent amount about the Braves and any number of players.

There may be someone who has linked the Braves to Beck (Island Brave in post #777) as the team he's assumed to have a deal with, but as of now, no one has produced that quote from an industry source.
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Longenhagen has mentioned it, BA has mentioned it, Pipeline has mentioned it (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/23108...-projection-2017-mlb-draft/?topicid=151437456).

So... what exactly do you need to see someone write to believe that the Braves are considering Beck at 41 since three of the most credible sources have said it? Not really sure why you're still hesitant to believe this.
 
Beck under slot at 5 to sign Beck over slot at 41 will kick off a whole string of BPA arguments. If Lewis is BPA based mostly on "certainty" and will cost full slot, but Beck has equivalent tools/ceiling to Lewis but is ranked lower due to being more "risky", can we be upset that the Braves went under slot and passed on BPA?

What if the pick is Beck over McKay, a guy most around here want the Braves to skip even though he is considered BPA at that point?
 
IslandBrave said:
I've seen it a couple other places and the guy at Tomahawk Take says he's heard it all Spring
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Again, just pointing out that no one has produced a direct quote linking the Braves as that team.

You very well may have heard it or read it somewhere (and i'd be thrilled to get him personally), but the quote thus far is from you. Not to call you a liar by any means - some of us would just prefer to see it quoted from someone other than our buddy Island Brave on the message board. Tends to carry a little more weight when someone with connections in the industry actually goes on the record with that kind of statement.

Tomahawk Take is a fan site, and has no affiliation with the organization - fun to read (no doubt), but the reports you read there are simply things they take from what they read just like everyone here.

Remember Shanks and all the hub-bub about the MP? That's someone who has had people drop hints that aren't willing to be quoted on the record who wants to generate interest and buzz, and even he hasn't linked us as the team with a deal in place with Beck. If there was one team that "many" had narrowed it down to, there would be tons of industry guys reporting it like they did our supposed handshake deal with Maitan.
 
CJ9 said:
Longenhagen has mentioned it, BA has mentioned it, Pipeline has mentioned it (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/23108...-projection-2017-mlb-draft/?topicid=151437456).

So... what exactly do you need to see someone write to believe that the Braves are considering Beck at 41 since three of the most credible sources have said it? Not really sure why you're still hesitant to believe this.
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"Then the money would be used to aggressively pursue someone with their pick at No. 41, perhaps injured Stanford starter Tristan Beck."

That means the Braves have a deal in place with him to you?

Again, it would be great IMO. I just prefer that someone goes on the record identifying the Braves as the team with a deal in place. Mayo says "perhaps" we would pursue him if we signed an underslot guy at #5.
 
clvclv said:
Again, just pointing out that no one has produced a direct quote linking the Braves as that team.

You very well may have heard it or read it somewhere (and i'd be thrilled to get him personally), but the quote thus far is from you. Not to call you a liar by any means - some of us would just prefer to see it quoted from someone other than our buddy Island Brave on the message board. Tends to carry a little more weight when someone with connections in the industry actually goes on the record with that kind of statement.

Tomahawk Take is a fan site, and has no affiliation with the organization - fun to read (no doubt), but the reports you read there are simply things they take from what they read just like everyone here.

Remember Shanks and all the hub-bub about the MP? That's someone who has had people drop hints that aren't willing to be quoted on the record who wants to generate interest and buzz, and even he hasn't linked us as the team with a deal in place with Beck. If there was one team that "many" had narrowed it down to, there would be tons of industry guys reporting it like they did our supposed handshake deal with Maitan.
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Did you read the Baseball America mock today or the Pipeline mock from weeks ago that I linked? They are directly connecting the Braves to Tristian Beck. I tried a quick search for the Longenhagen quote but couldn't find it. But there are very clear instances to BA and Pipeline talking about the Braves interesting in him. This isn't something people on here are randomly generating.

Are you really suggesting you need a quote from someone inside the Braves organization before you believe it?
 
Enscheff said:
Beck under slot at 5 to sign Beck over slot at 41 will kick off a whole string of BPA arguments. If Lewis is BPA based mostly on "certainty" and will cost full slot, but Beck has equivalent tools/ceiling to Lewis but is ranked lower due to being more "risky", can we be upset that the Braves went under slot and passed on BPA?

What if the pick is Beck over McKay, a guy most around here want the Braves to skip even though he is considered BPA at that point?
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I keep flip-flopping on the guys I want. I've recently on a podcast from RTA that Lewis may be able to stay at SS, if so that's a pretty big uptick in his value.

I'm OK with the swing for fences pick with Beck if we can get him a little under slot.

I'd rather play safer and get Lewis if we have to pay the full slot.

Of course I still like Hasley and you might be able to get him under slot as well.
 
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