Peraza In Play

BRule said:
Agreed, not really sure how or why the hype train got so out of control....probably because our system is so down. Can't believe people wouldn't trade Peraza....
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The blowback isn't trading Peraza. It's Bowden throwing **** at the wall. Never forget the true enemy.
 
Deester11 said:
Who says they wouldn't trade him? And this board isn't the only Peraza-hype machine. Again, he's flawed but certainly not 'meh' as you and a few suggest.
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Never said he was "meh" just don't see him as a top prospect. He has 0 power and doesn't walk....so best case he is Dee Gordon with 20 less steals and better D? Which is fine but I wouldn't kill a deal over him or not go after a 2b via trade or FA because "We have Jose Peraza"
 
BRule said:
Never said he was "meh" just don't see him as a top prospect. He has 0 power and doesn't walk....so best case he is Dee Gordon with 20 less steals and better D? Which is fine but I wouldn't kill a deal over him or not go after a 2b via trade or FA because "We have Jose Peraza"
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Except we kind of have to with our financial situation. We need to rely on our housemade guys making peanuts right now. Peraza needs to be given a shot unless we stumble upon a really great deal.

I'm not opposed to trading him. But, he took giant leaps this year and is super young.
 
I have to imagine Peraza's value would be maximized by trading him as a SS, or by allowing the Braves to trade Simmons and play Peraza at SS. A conversion to CF would also be a better use of the asset than shifting him to 2B or 3B where his bat is unlikely to play.
 
yeezus said:
Except we kind of have to with our financial situation. We need to rely on our housemade guys making peanuts right now. Peraza needs to be given a shot unless we stumble upon a really great deal.

I'm not opposed to trading him. But, he took giant leaps this year and is super young.
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Well I mean.......throwing around all your money on a 30 year old with no neck and declining numbers isn't the best idea.....
 
Deester11 said:
I think this was Bowden who put this out. Regardless, I don't see Peraza being included in any trade. I thought he would be more highly thought of by this board...I for one like him a lot. This season should be a better gauge of where he is.
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Yep, Bowden throws crap at the wall and some folks on here run with it. I am not surprised by the reaction.

Maybe if we re-named him Varvaro he'd get a love-fest too, lol.
 
Braves1976 said:
Yep, Bowden throws crap at the wall and some folks on here run with it. I am not surprised by the reaction.

Maybe if we re-named him Varvaro he'd get a love-fest too, lol.
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The Tampa Bay Rays are in the process of trading Wil Myers - does anyone seriously think that Hart wouldn't listen on Peraza???
 
yeezus said:
Except we kind of have to with our financial situation. We need to rely on our housemade guys making peanuts right now. Peraza needs to be given a shot unless we stumble upon a really great deal.

I'm not opposed to trading him. But, he took giant leaps this year and is super young.
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^^^This. I'm not really even that concerned with it. I'm concerned with where we are. And yes, I know it's just December.....but the magic 8 ball is cloudy as it can get. It's saying...."Ask me in 2017."
 
Some Longoria talk out there. I wonder if Peraza might have been involved in that. Gattis and Peraza for Longoria.
 
Deester11 said:
Can you expand on that? I would have said..not even close to reality...but..you never know.
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I don't know much about it, but they just talked about Longo potentially being available on mlb network. I was half listening. But they were talking about how much the Rays could get for him. I've heard Longo's name a few times this offseason. It's one of the players I think would make sense if the Braves were going to trade Peraza.
 
NYCBrave said:
His walk rates, strikeout rates, and power rates have been in a decline over the past few years
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Not going to disagree...BUT...has Longoria had an legit protection in that lineup?....no not really. Don't get me wrong ZoBrist is a nice player, Myers had a good first year, but other than that the lineup has been filled with a bunch of role players. Going back, who was really the only other threat in that lineup....answer BJ Upton, LOL.

He'd be the perfect player to compliment Freeman in the middle of the order going forward, at a huge position of need (3B). I'd like to think that this would be a situation where we would be buying low.

I'd love to have him on the team in the heartbeat.

Probably not going to happen, though.
 
Longoria just turned 29, and his contract is complex. Here are the numbers.

2015: $11M

2016: $11.5M

2017: $13M

2018: $13.5M

2019: $14.5M

2020: $15M

2021: $18.5M

2022: $19.5M

2023: $13M club option ($5M buyout)

Assuming the 2023 option was declined, this contract takes him through his age 36 season. I don't know that we want to be saddled with that kind of deal UNLESS we are assuming that he is the next Chipper Jones. He has averaged nearly 148 games played per year (if you don't count an injury-plagued 2012 campaign), and he is definitely a star. But can we tie that much money up in one player? If we were to acquire Longoria (and I personally doubt we will) we would be making a statement which said, "We are pinning the next 8 years or so on Freddie Freeman and Evan Longoria."
 
mcollier said:
Longoria just turned 29, and his contract is complex. Here are the numbers.

2015: $11M
2016: $11.5M
2017: $13M
2018: $13.5M
2019: $14.5M
2020: $15M
2021: $18.5M
2022: $19.5M
2023: $13M club option ($5M buyout)

Assuming the 2023 option was declined, this contract takes him through his age 36 season. I don't know that we want to be saddled with that kind of deal UNLESS we are assuming that he is the next Chipper Jones. He has averaged nearly 148 games played per year (if you don't count an injury-plagued 2012 campaign), and he is definitely a star. But can we tie that much money up in one player? If we were to acquire Longoria (and I personally doubt we will) we would be making a statement which said, "We are pinning the next 8 years or so on Freddie Freeman and Evan Longoria."
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I disagree. That is not a huge amount of money in the context of what the MLB is going to be.
 
Not sure if I want to deal Peraza honestly. I get that you need to have some power but I don't think that is where the MLB is going. I want guys who have excellent contact rates and by all measures that is where Peraza is right now.

However, if they do trade Peraza it could tell us how the organization view Albies.
 
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