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All that said, he has a pattern that is hard to defend overall and I'm not about to vouch for his character.
 
My whole point is actions of the past have consequences still today

Which was obvious of the thread I started

But we (you) don’t want to admit that and that’s fine

Being disingenuous and twisting words is more fun for ya.

“Racist pools. Hahaha”
 
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" I think she knows exactly who these people are, but she loves the idea of herself as somebody who can please both sides."

Slate going after Synema for her race and her sexuality. I'm confident the outrage is incoming.
 
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goldfly said:
My whole point is actions of the past have consequences still today

Which was obvious of the thread I started

But we (you) don’t want to admit that and that’s fine

Being disingenuous and twisting words is more fun for ya.

“Racist pools. Hahaha”
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No one disputes that the past impacts the present. The debate is over what to do about it. Some of us think we should treat everyone the same, regardless of their melanin. Some others think we should discriminate on the basis of race instead.
 
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1. Like it or not, they're in the suburbs instead of the city for a reason. I'm in the exurbs for a reason. The higher likelihood of blacks committing crimes in urban areas doesn't make it racist to want to avoid the higher crime rates of the city.

2. With minorities? I genuinely don't remember.

3. Shortly after multiple highly publicized instances of repeat sexual assault offenders who were in the country illegally. I don't like the statements, but there was context that gets left out in the retelling.

4. Indefensible, but hardly throwing acid on someone.

5. You can look at it like it's a white country vs a brown country, or like it's wealthy, self sufficient immigrants vs poor immigrants who will add pressure to the safety net.

6. He wasn't the first, and it was in the wake of Arab Spring, Benghazi, and world wide terror attacks by Muslim extremists. He also talked about enhancing the background check on immigrants from those countries before removing the ban, but that part was also left out of the NYT/WaPo/CNN narrative. I still didn't like it, but it wasn't a bolt out of the blue and tons of context is being left out.
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7. was one of the chief purveyors of the racist lie known as birtherism
 
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I'd say that's about as true as a statement gets.
 
Banning something nobody can define clearly or prove that it exists currently is indicative of its existence?

What is systemic racism today? What is it tomorrow?

Will we ever get an actual definition that isn’t just this person doesn’t have money or a family and therefore has a harder life.
 
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I'd say that's about as true as a statement gets.
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Through my studies of policing systemic racism is definitely a real thing but I dont trust the education system to teach it. Instead of teaching that we should treat each other equally I know this is going to end up with white people are bad and we need to give extra benefits to non white people because racism. I will always be for removing the racism from the system but I will never be for adding racism to counter balance racism. I think it would be much better to teach about the psychology of why a person could develop racist idea.
 
In order to do that the history of racism must be understood.

One can't learn to ride a bike with out understanding what it feels like to fall.
We ( as a society) fell. Not just having to do with black people but anyone defined as other.
We are, a century later just now beginning to recognize our debt to indigenous peoples
 
Just a few years ago the Tikitorchers chanted at Jewish people.
Our former President tried banning a religion, same guy labeled Latinos rapists... notice, I haven't mentioned Joy Reid , Al Sharpton, BLM or Jesse once.
 
kinda makes one think something else here is at play:


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The cool thing about holidays is you can choopse to recognize them or not.

My Jewish friends don't celebrate Christmas and my Christian friends don't

celebrate Yom Kipur. But I've never heard one of them make an

argument that the other's holiday shouldn't exist.
 
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Through my studies of policing systemic racism is definitely a real thing but I dont trust the education system to teach it. Instead of teaching that we should treat each other equally I know this is going to end up with white people are bad and we need to give extra benefits to non white people because racism. I will always be for removing the racism from the system but I will never be for adding racism to counter balance racism. I think it would be much better to teach about the psychology of why a person could develop racist idea.
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It's not going to end up as that, it already is that. They've already redefined racism. They separate elementary school kids by race and tell them that some of them are privileged or racist because of things done by other people before they were born. They justify racism against some people by calling anti-racism.

No one believes this is right. No one is that twisted ethically. It just serves some people's ends.
 
By Oliver Willis -June 17, 2021 12:30 PM



In a speech delivered on the floor of the House on Wednesday, Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) spoke in opposition to legislation making Juneteenth a federal holiday, arguing that it would force Americans to celebrate independence based on "racial identity."

The bill, entitled the "Juneteenth National Independence Day Act," will create a federal holiday marking the date in 1865 that the Emancipation Proclamation was enforced by federal troops in Galveston, Texas. It passed by a unanimous vote in the Senate on Tuesday.

"Naming this day National Independence Day will create confusion and push Americans to pick one of those two days as their independence day based on their racial identity," said Massie, who is white. "Why can't we name this 'Emancipation Day' and come together as Americans and celebrate that day together as Americans, Black, white, all colors, all races, all ethnicities."


Emancipation Day is the name of an existing holiday marked in Washington, D.C., to celebrate the official end of slavery in the city on April 16, 1862.

The bill on Juneteenth does not pit the holiday against any other.

It overwhelming passed the House by a vote of 415-14, with 13 other Republicans joining Massie in voting against it.



Some of them made comments echoing Massie's claim that the bill is divisive.

Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ), who recently headlined a white nationalist conference, said in a statement, "Our country is divided, and the cultural and political Marxists are continuing their relentless efforts to divide this country further. Juneteenth is more debunked Critical Race Theory in action."

Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) tweeted, "If you want to call Juneteenth, for example, Freedom Day or Emancipation Day then fine – that's certainly worth considering. But calling it Independence Day is WHOLLY INAPPROPIATE [sic]."

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Not sure what Marxism has to do with this. Perhaps one of our resident historians can enlighten us all.

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Hoping someone chimes in with a Joy Reid just ... because
 
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Some of the scholars who have done work under the CRT banner are Marxists.

I don't think the fact that something has a Marxist lineage disqualifies it from the sphere of reasoned discussion. But I'm one of those naive elitists who is disconnected from the realities of ordinary American life.
 
Calling it Independence Day was either dumb or intentionally divisive. Or maybe it was intended to get some people to object to giving it the same name as the existing Independence Day, so they can be branded racists.
 
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Calling it Independence Day was either dumb or intentionally divisive. Or maybe it was intended to get some people to object to giving it the same name as the existing Independence Day, so they can be branded racists.
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Since late 19th century when America celebrates their freedom


do you think there are a number of people, like maybe 1/3 who wonder " freedom for who?"
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Give it a rest and get over your white male grievance. It is tired and old
might too wanna see someone about that Joy Reid fetish you keep tucked away
 
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