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Manning admitted he felt the pressure coming and slid down to take the sack. Don't let the facts get in your way though.
 
CyYoung31 said:
No. He slipped.
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The problem is that in the NFL today if a player dove down and hit him on the ground it would be 15 yards personal foul. He went down in a way that the entire Steelers defensive line thought he gave himself up. To me that indicates a clear rule issue in the NFL. Where is the line drawn? Especially with a QB like Manning who does this regularly (gives up his body and goes to ground I mean) it's not like this was Cam Newton doing it.
 
thewupk said:
Yeah. I'm sure before the game they all came togethor and decided not to call him down if that happened in the game.
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No, but to deny preferential treatment to stars in the NFL is silly. I look back at how certain QBs are treated you see it.

To go old school. Donovan McNabb used to get murdered in the pocket. If similar hits were put on Brady or Manning 15 yard fouls would be called. Favoritism and how someone plays the game certainly is a factor. "Hard nosed" players usually get less fouls called their way than softer players.
 
zitothebrave said:
The problem is that in the NFL today if a player dove down and hit him on the ground it would be 15 yards personal foul. He went down in a way that the entire Steelers defensive line thought he gave himself up. To me that indicates a clear rule issue in the NFL. Where is the line drawn? Especially with a QB like Manning who does this regularly (gives up his body and goes to ground I mean) it's not like this was Cam Newton doing it.
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Except it's pretty clear he was already falling while trying to avoid the sack.

If Manning did plan this, then it was a dumb plan, as the refs could just as easy call the play dead. Or, the Steelers could have easily got to him while on the ground.
 
Carp said:
Except it's pretty clear he was already falling while trying to avoid the sack.

If Manning did plan this, then it was a dumb plan, as the refs could just as easy call the play dead. Or, the Steelers could have easily got to him while on the ground.
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And been called for a penalty.
 
Carp said:
Except it's pretty clear he was already falling while trying to avoid the sack.

If Manning did plan this, then it was a dumb plan, as the refs could just as easy call the play dead. Or, the Steelers could have easily got to him while on the ground.
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I don't think he planned on it. I think he just acted.

What I'm hitting on is the issue of when is a quarterback giving themselves up in the pocket? Had he been hit he would have been up shouting for a penalty. He took advantage of that opportunity. I don't blame him as a competitor. But I'm talking about from a rules perspective there needs to be clarity. They're into protecting the QB, but this is a scenario where the defense assumed the QB would have been protected and it burned them. Rules need to be clarified.
 
Carp said:
Are we making up penalties as we go along now? The refs never blew the whistle and he had time to make a play. But in your opinion he should have stayed on the ground for the integrity of the game.... GTFO.
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No need to make up penalties. If anyone actually thinks Manning gets hit on that play and there is no penalty called, you need to quit watching football all together.
 
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