REAL FOOTBALL Thread

Carp said:
2 pages ago, you literally called like half of the SB performances in the last 30 years either mediocre or bad.

But if someone else doesn't like it, it doesn't mean it was terrible, it just wasn't their style..... Got it.
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When people aren't in key and are phoning it in, that's bad. Was he out of key in his rapping? I don't think so. He certainly wasn't phoning it in as a performance as this was one of the more produced shows since probably Gaga.
 
zitothebrave said:
Maybe, but Seattle still rolls them. Bo Nix isn't him. But Denver is a better team than New England.
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Bo's better than Drake is. Has a better OL. Probably still lose but that game is way more competitive if Denver made it. Probably still lose b/c Seattle is so good in all 3 phases. But as Kanye said once, i guess we'll never know.
 
Tapate50 said:
That’s always his excuse.

It was awful for the masses of US folks that don’t speak English.

Just saying - Spanish music isn’t universally appealing. It doesn’t follow the beat. He just talked through the changes in music
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No it isn't universally appealing, no music is universally appealing, but you're just not right about following the beat. He's a reggaeton artist, everything uses the same beat. You're right there could have been more interesting interludes, but I mean I don't know how many concerts you've been to. Most of them just kind of stop pause then jump into the next one. Famously, the Ramones would just count in the next song. Which usually wasn't the same actual beat as the song.

Like of all the critiques, talking through changes in music is funny to me. One of the generally regarded best recorded concerts of all time is Nirvana Unplugged, Kurt playts the song, stops changes the music then plays the next. often with discordant noodling between. Would you have been more content with there just being a harder stop between songs without talking over?

I'm not gonna pretend I cared about the performance, but to style it was fine. I don't prefer that style of music but I wouldn't say it was bad. I think it was well choreographed, the set was gorgeous and the videography was excellent. If you like Reggaeton this may have been your favorite ever. Though they'd be wrong, Princes is still the best.
 
I didnt enjoy the halftime show. But that's fine
I'm not mad about it. Bad Bunny just isn't intended for me. I'm mature enough to know my personal tastes don't have to be catered to.

I don't complain about the NFL having a halftime show not meant for me. My only complaint is with the people who act like I have to like the show regardless of whether it's meant for me or not. That whether you like it or not is some kind of litmus test or something.

I don't enjoy Bad Bunny's style of music and it's okay that the halftime show had a style of music I don't like.
 
zitothebrave said:
When people aren't in key and are phoning it in, that's bad. Was he out of key in his rapping? I don't think so. He certainly wasn't phoning it in as a performance as this was one of the more produced shows since probably Gaga.
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What about JT's, Coldplay's, U2's, or Maroon 5's performances were out of key or "phoning it in." Seems like a lot of people liked those performances.

Again, different rules for different people. Ok when you do it. Not when someone else does it.
 
Carp said:
What about JT's, Coldplay's, U2's, or Maroon 5's performances were out of key or "phoning it in." Seems like a lot of people liked those performances.

Again, different rules for different people. Ok when you do it. Not when someone else does it.
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U2 I didn't say was phoning it in, it was just a bleh performance. Coldplay was a bad fit, they're a low energy act. The performance was fine but when you're trying to condense a 15 minute set, playing Yellow, Clocks and Fix You isn't getting people hype. I'm probably being too harsh on JT and Maroon 5. JT is absurd he got his own show after he was equally complicit in destroying Janet Jackson's career on the SUper Bowl. But even then I don't remember anything from his show. Maroon 5 was boring as hell. The only part of the show that had any bump to it was when Big Boi came on and did an outkast song. And they pissed off every millenial by hinting at Sweet Victory and instead bringing out Travis Scott for Sicko Mode which I'm sure some people liked but my memory of it was him bobbing his head and staring at a monitor.

I mean there is an aspect to OK when I do it because I'd be willing to bet that I consume infinitely more live music and performance content than the average person.
 
striker42 said:
I didnt enjoy the halftime show. But that's fine
I'm not mad about it. Bad Bunny just isn't intended for me. I'm mature enough to know my personal tastes don't have to be catered to.

I don't complain about the NFL having a halftime show not meant for me. My only complaint is with the people who act like I have to like the show regardless of whether it's meant for me or not. That whether you like it or not is some kind of litmus test or something.

I don't enjoy Bad Bunny's style of music and it's okay that the halftime show had a style of music I don't like.
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Reasonable perspective to have about a commercial.
 
zitothebrave said:
U2 I didn't say was phoning it in, it was just a bleh performance. Coldplay was a bad fit, they're a low energy act. The performance was fine but when you're trying to condense a 15 minute set, playing Yellow, Clocks and Fix You isn't getting people hype. I'm probably being too harsh on JT and Maroon 5. JT is absurd he got his own show after he was equally complicit in destroying Janet Jackson's career on the SUper Bowl. But even then I don't remember anything from his show. Maroon 5 was boring as hell. The only part of the show that had any bump to it was when Big Boi came on and did an outkast song. And they pissed off every millenial by hinting at Sweet Victory and instead bringing out Travis Scott for Sicko Mode which I'm sure some people liked but my memory of it was him bobbing his head and staring at a monitor.

I mean there is an aspect to OK when I do it because I'd be willing to bet that I consume infinitely more live music and performance content than the average person.
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LOL.

Literally what I said. Rules for thee, but not for me.

It's perfectly valid for millions of people to call it bad terrible show.
 
Carp said:
LOL.

Literally what I said. Rules for thee, but not for me.
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I mean if that's what you want to take away, go ahead. Reality is when matching to style and gradoise of performance, I don't think you can say it's bad, you can say you don't like it or prefer it or whatever. Mind you many of the artists who I didn't think did great jobs are artists I love. So it's not a preference thing. I love Tom Petty and the Who, btu they were about 20 years too late to be performing. Same with McCartney and the Stones. SPringsteen was on the edge. But like if Pearl Jam was brought in now to perform it would be 10 years too late as Vedder's voice is shot.
 
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