REAL FOOTBALL Thread

Its dumb to put on a show where the vast majority of the audience doesnt speak the language

In my line of work I frequently need to send speakers to conferences/events etc. I wouldnt send a Japanese speaker to a conference in London

Hell Bad Bunny was looking right at the camera and saying something with some extreme passion and I've no clue what he was saying.

Thats dumb
Goodell whole thing for a decade is making the NFL a global sport. Through that lens hiring the most popular musician in the world is a slam dunk. Americans fighting about it only helped it get even more eye balls

 
Goodell whole thing for a decade is making the NFL a global sport. Through that lens hiring the most popular musician in the world is a slam dunk. Americans fighting about it only helped it get even more eye balls

Im not arguing it wasn't highly watched, and im sure it gained viewers who have never watched an NFL game

But the product was bad for the core audience. I flipped it offer after a few minutes because I simply had no idea what he was saying
 
Im not arguing it wasn't highly watched, and im sure it gained viewers who have never watched an NFL game

But the product was bad for the core audience. I flipped it offer after a few minutes because I simply had no idea what he was saying
The core audience is there for the football including a couple in this thread who said halftime is to refill beverages and plates.

The halftime show is to attract eyeballs who wouldn’t watch the game. Specifically, Rog wants dem eyeballs from overseas.

If the two overlap, all the better

I’m like Zeets. The last halftime show I was really into was Prince. These shows are usually safe and boring pop stars.

The irony of it all is that the folks who extracted the most meaning out of the “message” from Mr Bunny’s show are tanky communist progressives enjoying the biggest capitalism spectacle of the year.
 
Yeah of course

They said he was gonna wear a dress

Shock value and all that
He's the most popular artist on Spotify in the entire world. This isn't a gimmick. It was a deliberate play by the NFL to get eyes on the game. No one in the world outside of MAGA could have given 2 shits what he was wearing that was an entire right wing theory
 
There is not a world where an RB is move valuable than a QB, especially one who product stats on volume vs effectiveness
CMC lead the entire NFL in touches. By a lot. He had 54 more touches than next in line or 12% more touches than any other player in the NFL. Stafford made 388 completions. Of course he touched the ball more than CMC did. Any QB will. But CMC was the Niners. If you replace Staford with an average QB the Rams could make the playoffs. If CMC is replaced by an average RB the Niners win 5 games.
 
You know what does suck about the Super Bowl now, are the ads.

Like yearly you have the buzz ads, one year it's crypto wallets, one year it's something else, now it's AI chat bots no one has heard of. And not a single one of them is interesting. Like no one remembers etrade as a site but they remember the babies. Doritos used to have bangers every year, budweiser has the shittiest AI gen ad I've seen in a long time. Like where are th egood commercials. You used to get huge commercials. now only Dunkin seems to be doing it.
 
CMC was an average RB last year
CMC had 400+ touches 2000+ yards and 17 scores. That's not average my dude. Especially when everyone knew he was getting the ball. it's what made him and Bijan and JT so impressive. Everyone knew they were getting the ball. But they couldn't stop them.
 
CMC had 400+ touches 2000+ yards and 17 scores. That's not average my dude. Especially when everyone knew he was getting the ball. it's what made him and Bijan and JT so impressive. Everyone knew they were getting the ball. But they couldn't stop them.
The 49ers ranked 22nd in the league in EPA per rush attempt. CMC ranked 63rd among RBs

He got his yardage by being the ball 30 times per game
 
Maybe by stats. I would still take Kamara's best vs CMC's best in terms of being a receiver but CMC also has never played with a Brees level QB. I would even argue Reggie Bush was a better receiving RB but wasnt utilized enough there to make the claim. Bush should have been a slot receiver not a RB.
 
Maybe by stats. I would still take Kamara's best vs CMC's best in terms of being a receiver but CMC also has never played with a Brees level QB. I would even argue Reggie Bush was a better receiving RB but wasnt utilized enough there to make the claim. Bush should have been a slot receiver not a RB.
CMC has 112 games has 626 receptions for 5390 yards.

Kamara has 126 Games has 606 Receptoins for 4948 yards.

CMC is the best receiving running back in the NFL.

I don't even know if you can say Kamara has the best season his rookie year he had 81 recptions in 100 targets for 826 yards and 5 tds. in Kamara has never topped that yardage or TD number, and only once topped that reception with 83. CMC has topped that yardage number 3 times, reception number 4 times, TD number and TD nubmer 3 times. To isolate how not amazing Kamara's season was Bijan last year had basically the same numbers 103 targets 79 receptions, 820 yards 4 TDs

I love Bijan, I wouldn't put him close to CMC as a receiver. CMC's dad is a receiver, his brother is a receiver.
 
Im not arguing it wasn't highly watched, and im sure it gained viewers who have never watched an NFL game

But the product was bad for the core audience. I flipped it offer after a few minutes because I simply had no idea what he was saying
After translation, I'm shocked they let him talk that way on TV even if it was in a different language than the broadcast. Seems like someone at the NFL didn't check either.
 
CMC is the best receiving running back in NFL history, only looking at his running stats is stupid.
Well im not arguing about his career, I'm arguing about his mvp candidacy

75% of his touches were running the ball. And he was frankly below average if not bad as a runner this year. Bottom 3rd of the league in EPA per play and success rate, bad ypc, and almost no explosive runs. I think he didnt break a 15 yard run til like week 16


He was a good receiver, but nothing elite. Ranked 9th in the league in YPC. But, like with rushing just got a shit ton of volume

Put it all together, he was an average RB who had a shit ton of volume and doesnt belong anywhere near the mvp conversation
 
Well im not arguing about his career, I'm arguing about his mvp candidacy

75% of his touches were running the ball. And he was frankly below average if not bad as a runner this year. Bottom 3rd of the league in EPA per play and success rate, bad ypc, and almost no explosive runs. I think he didnt break a 15 yard run til like week 16


He was a good receiver, but nothing elite. Ranked 9th in the league in YPC. But, like with rushing just got a shit ton of volume

Put it all together, he was an average RB who had a shit ton of volume and doesnt belong anywhere near the mvp conversation
Anywhere near is a stretch but definitely should not be MVP.

He also dropped a key pass at hte goaline against Seattle week 18 that could have given niners a bye. Yes it was 10 at that ppoint but all momentum was on niners side.
 
CMC lead the entire NFL in touches. By a lot. He had 54 more touches than next in line or 12% more touches than any other player in the NFL. Stafford made 388 completions. Of course he touched the ball more than CMC did. Any QB will. But CMC was the Niners. If you replace Staford with an average QB the Rams could make the playoffs. If CMC is replaced by an average RB the Niners win 5 games.
LMAO, no.

The Rams are not making the playoffs with an average QB (depending on what you qualify as "average").

You realize they had the best offense in the NFL right? Defensively they were mediocre. Yes they had a good pass rush, but their secondary was mostly hot garbage. If you replace Stafford with someone like Joe Flacco, the Rams are not making the playoffs. Not even close.
 
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Well im not arguing about his career, I'm arguing about his mvp candidacy

75% of his touches were running the ball. And he was frankly below average if not bad as a runner this year. Bottom 3rd of the league in EPA per play and success rate, bad ypc, and almost no explosive runs. I think he didnt break a 15 yard run til like week 16


He was a good receiver, but nothing elite. Ranked 9th in the league in YPC. But, like with rushing just got a shit ton of volume

Put it all together, he was an average RB who had a shit ton of volume and doesnt belong anywhere near the mvp conversation
I didn't say we were arguing his career. We're talking about this year

You're throwing out 25% of his touches. THat was the point.

CMC was the offense. Teams were gearing up to shut him down and he still averaged 5 yards a touch. Again I'm not saying he was beast and I actually would argue he shouldn't have been OPOY. But there isn't a player on a playoff team who meant more to that team and produced to a league leading level like him.
 
LMAO, no.

The Rams are not making the playoffs with an average QB (depending on what you qualify as "average").

You realize they had the best offense in the NFL right? Defensively they were mediocre. Yes they had a good pass rush, but their secondary was mostly hot garbage. If you replace Stafford with someone like Joe Flacco, the Rams are not making the playoffs. Not even close.
Rams had the 7th best defense in EPA/Play

Niners had the 24th best defense in EPA/Play

Using non-advanced stats

Rams were 13th in Yards per play, 5th in Turnovers, Gave up the 12th fewest first downs, 8th in NFL in sacks, 4th in the NFL in pressure% 6th from the best in missed tackles (aka only 5 teams missed less tackles than them)

There's nothing about them that is mediocre. Yards is probably the only thing. The Rams defense was good.

Niners by the way 24th in yards per play, tied for 23rd in turnovers, gave up the 23rd fewest first downs, had the least amount of sacks in the NFL, the 3rd worst Pressure% (aka 30th best) 10th from the best in missed tackles.

You clearly didn't watch football this year. The Niners, especially when Purdy was out, basically strapped their offense to CMC and ran with it. In the Falcons game CMC had 31 touches for 201 yards, the rest of the team had 25 touches for 123 yards.
 
By the way, Derrick Henry is an effing beast. 31 years old and he still finished 2nd in rushing and ypc. He's already locked up his HOF spot. If he has another 1500 yard season again in 2026, it's going to be time to start talking about the all time record.
 
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