REAL FOOTBALL Thread

thethe said:
Don’t sleep on giants and patriots for worst record.
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Giants are better than they have shown. They have had a brutal schedule so far outside of AZ. Granted, they are getting routed in about every game. I think they still finish low end 5 wins and as a high as 8 wins.

The Bears have a much easier schedule than the Giants and Patriots do, but they are just really awful on both sides of the ball. I don't see the Bears finding 4 more wins anywhere on their schedule. Even the Cardinals seem like an overmatch for them.
 
Carp said:
Giants are better than they have shown. They have had a brutal schedule so far outside of AZ. Granted, they are getting routed in about every game. I think they still finish low end 5 wins and as a high as 8 wins.

The Bears have a much easier schedule than the Giants and Patriots do, but they are just really awful on both sides of the ball. I don't see the Bears finding 4 more wins anywhere on their schedule. Even the Cardinals seem like an overmatch for them.
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Fields has so much variance to his game that I think he wins more than people think but is awful in other games.
 
thethe said:
Fields has so much variance to his game that I think he wins more than people think but is awful in other games.
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I wonder how much Fields would win if he had a better cast around him. Right now he pretty much has to put up a dominant performance just to get a W. When your defense is so bad that your QB is always being pressured to throw you back into the game, the QB is forced to try to make plays he probably shouldn't be trying to make.
 
Carp said:
I would put the odds of Chicago ending up with Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr. at about 20% right now. 2 generational type of talents at different positions in the same draft is a pretty decent haul.
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I don't know if CHicago would do that. I feel like they'd trade out one of those picks and look for Fashanu or Mims. Bears would likely gamble on protecting their new QB first and foremost.
 
zitothebrave said:
I don't know if CHicago would do that. I feel like they'd trade out one of those picks and look for Fashanu or Mims. Bears would likely gamble on protecting their new QB first and foremost.
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Maybe. I don't see how they could pass up the opportunity to take a truly elite playmaker at WR. MHJ is getting Megatron comps. That's obviously unfair to him, but it tells you the type of talent he is. And Chicago can always build the OL through their later picks and they will again have over 100 million in cap space to sign the best OL available.
 
I mean I would take MHJ and Williams. If you have a shot of having the best QB to come out in years and the best WR to come out in years, you do that. You have a dynamic offense for years.

Just don't think it's what the Bears would do.
 
thethe said:
Y’all need a new QB. Tough sledding.
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I wouldn't mind letting Dak go elsewhere but I don't think he's the #1 problem and honestly I don't think SF has that much more talent than Dallas, that is if there's an accurate and objective way to measure talent. Think back to the film we could see last night. When Dak dropped back he was harried for sure, but when you could see his receivers they had SF guys all over them. When Purdy dropped back he could see his receivers so open I could probably have hit them at least part of the time.

Dallas puts together a game plan based on their talent and what they do best. When they face a team that just has less talent Dallas overpowers them until they get desperate and make a mistake then Dallas crushes them. When SF comes up with a game plan they try what works for them and when it works fine, but when it doesn't they make adjustments. They knew what Dallas was going to do from play to play they were ready for it, and when Dallas' game plan didn't work or they needed to make adjustments it was deer in the headlights all night long.

SF has a lot of talent and in the right places like the OL and DL but IMO Shanahan is SF's biggest weapon and best "secret weapon". He actually has a clue what he's doing. All to rare these days.

Again, congrats. Stay healthy and the sky's the limit.
 
So where does Kyler Murray play next year?
Personally, I think it's gonna be the Falcons.

Also I think there's a good chance Cousins ends up NE and the Vikes trade for Murray.

No idea where Fields ends up. Tampa maybe? Or I could see him sitting behind Geno in Seattle as sort of competition/QB in waiting for Geno Smith.
 
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Purdy has played like a top 5 QB from the minute he started. Question now is when is he actually top 5.
 
zbhargrove said:
Purdy’s a dude… I hope the Falcons don’t do anything stupid like trade for Kyler. Head case and more athlete than QB.
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Kyler was pretty terrific before the injury. Head case? I don't know. The AZ front office has done all they can do to push him away. A clause in the contract to study game film? Really?
 
I'm still hoping Fields ends up in Atlanta. Especially if the Falcons draft in the bottom half of the first round where there's no any great QB options.
 
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