Remember Kyle Lewis?

Southcack77 said:
Maybe Kyle Lewis does end up having a better career than Ian Anderson, but this sure is dumb.
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Preferring Kyle Lewis to Ian Anderson, which is what it will boil down to, is not "dumb" in any way.

Also, please explain how preferring taking BATS like the Cubs and Astros is inferior to taking ARMS like the Braves did.

Hell, the Astros worst pick was a HS pitcher named Mark Appel. Can you imagine if they had taken Golden Spikes winner Kris Bryant?

Can you imagine if the Cubs had Eloy Jimenez instead of Jose Quintana? I won't criticize the Chapman trade because they won the World Series.

Accumulate bats and go for the ace later. Bats hit much more frequently.
 
SJ24 said:
Preferring Kyle Lewis to Ian Anderson, which is what it will boil down to, is not "dumb" in any way.

Also, please explain how preferring taking BATS like the Cubs and Astros is inferior to taking ARMS like the Braves did.

Hell, the Astros worst pick was a HS pitcher named Mark Appel. Can you imagine if they had taken Golden Spikes winner Kris Bryant?

Can you imagine if the Cubs had Eloy Jimenez instead of Jose Quintana? I won't criticize the Chapman trade because they won the World Series.

Accumulate bats and go for the ace later. Bats hit much more frequently.
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It's dumb because you're basing your analysis on 7 games. Lewis could go easily hitless in his next 10 games and get benched. It's also a super dumb thing to say he's probably produced more WAR now than Anderson, Muller, or Wentz ever will.

Lewis is fine prospect. I recall wanting him, Senzel, AJ Puk, or Jay Groome. I recall Corey Ray as being very popular on here as well, but I never was high on him.
 
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Carp said:
It's dumb because you're basing your analysis on 7 games.
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But I'm not.

He did okay last year (great in terms of power), mashed in both spring training and summer camp, and received rave reviews from Edgar Martinez and different scouts, all before the Mariners started him off in the cleanup spot as a rookie.

I took him for ROY at +4000 for a reason.

He is Yo Cespedes.
 
SJ24 said:
But I'm not.

He did okay last year (great in terms of power), mashed in both spring training and summer camp, and received rave reviews from Edgar Martinez and different scouts, all before the Mariners started him off in the cleanup spot as a rookie.

I took him for ROY at +4000 for a reason.

He is Yo Cespedes.
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So he’s just a solid player?
 
SJ24 said:
Cespedes was a bit better than solid. Very good player for a few years. Put up a 6 WAR and two 4 WAR seasons.
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When he’s been healthy (which isn’t that often) he’s been good. But he hasn’t been a superstar or anything outside of one year.
 
SJ24 said:
But I'm not.

He did okay last year (great in terms of power), mashed in both spring training and summer camp, and received rave reviews from Edgar Martinez and different scouts, all before the Mariners started him off in the cleanup spot as a rookie.

I took him for ROY at +4000 for a reason.

He is Yo Cespedes.
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So because Edgar Martinez raved about him, that makes him a great player?
 
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SJ24 said:
Nice job ignoring the rest of the post.
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I ignored it because it's drivel.

Look, It's completely fine and reasonable that you think he will be a good player. Using his first 7 games this year as some sort of justification for your stance is what is stupid.
 
Carp said:
I ignored it because it's drivel.

Look, It's completely fine and reasonable that you think he will be a good player. Using his first 7 games this year as some sort of justification for your stance is what is stupid.
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And I have said I'm not doing that.
 
SJ24 said:
The kid from Snellville and Mercer who I really wanted instead of what we took in Anderson, Wentz, and Muller.

Lewis is batting .448 with 2 HR and 7 RBI for the Mariners. I believe he leads baseball in hits.

Really early but he's a legitimate ROY candidate.

The advanced metrics suggest he could be a prime Yoenis Cespedes type player.

Sure would be nice to have him instead of what we got.
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This literally is using the first 7 games to back your claim. I feel like this is more of a post to tell us you made a bet that he will he ROY. Not about us not drafting him.
 
These are some of your posts in this thread:

SJ24 said:
The kid from Snellville and Mercer who I really wanted instead of what we took in Anderson, Wentz, and Muller.

Lewis is batting .448 with 2 HR and 7 RBI for the Mariners. I believe he leads baseball in hits.

Really early but he's a legitimate ROY candidate.

The advanced metrics suggest he could be a prime Yoenis Cespedes type player.

Sure would be nice to have him instead of what we got.
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SJ24 said:
So you are contending 7 games is a meaningless sample size?

Hell, he's probably produced more WAR in 7 games than Anderson, Wentz, or Muller ever will.
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SJ24 said:
He has really improved since last season, too. His approach is more contact-oriented while letting his power come naturally.

He is hitting the ball hard consistently and has hit zero fly balls. I think something like 79% of his batted balls have been straight or oppo.

His O-swing % is down to 24 from 36.

Still striking out a lot, which I hope improves before it stabilizes.

Really promising start and a fun player to watch.

I got him at +4000 odds to win Rookie of the Year before the season started based on my own thoughts and stuff Edgar Martinez said.
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SJ24 said:
And I have said I'm not doing that.
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If that isn't using his first 7 games to support your argument, then what would you call it?

I don't know of anyone else in the world who looks deeply into 7 games worth data and tries to draw any meaningful information from it.
 
To sum up, he could go on to win ROY this year and win 10 MVPs over the next 10 years and your analysis in this thread would still be dumb.
 
i, too, preferred Lewis to Anderson. tons of people here wanted Lewis.
Lewis is sporting a .733 BABIP with a 37.5% K-rate and a HR/FB% of 66.7%.
i think Lewis will be a solid player, but he's going to come crashing down sooner rather than later. has a bit to go before we can declare him anything at all.
 
Super said:
i, too, preferred Lewis to Anderson. tons of people here wanted Lewis.
Lewis is sporting a .733 BABIP with a 37.5% K-rate and a HR/FB% of 66.7%.
i think Lewis will be a solid player, but he's going to come crashing down sooner rather than later. has a bit to go before we can declare him anything at all.
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Unfortunately for Lewis, the freak knee injury will make it impossible for anyone to declare they were right or wrong.

I'll always be a distant fan of his though
 
Carp said:
These are some of your posts in this thread:










If that isn't using his first 7 games to support your argument, then what would you call it?

I don't know of anyone else in the world who looks deeply into 7 games worth data and tries to draw any meaningful information from it.
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The 7 games is supporting my argument.

I'm not using the sample size as my entire argument.

Big difference.
 
Super said:
i, too, preferred Lewis to Anderson. tons of people here wanted Lewis.
Lewis is sporting a .733 BABIP with a 37.5% K-rate and a HR/FB% of 66.7%.
i think Lewis will be a solid player, but he's going to come crashing down sooner rather than later. has a bit to go before we can declare him anything at all.
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His defense looks pretty decent. If he can be a decent CF, provide some pop, and hold his own with a hit tool he'll be a very nice piece for the Mariners. Whether he'll be a star with the bat is something the jury is still out on. It is, however, far easier to predict that he'll be a valuable CF.
 
SJ24 said:
The 7 games is supporting my argument.

I'm not using the sample size as my entire argument.

Big difference.
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I never said it was your entire argument. But you've put quite a bit of emphasis in this thread on his first 7 games this year, and that is dumb. You literally said:

"So you are contending 7 games is a meaningless sample size?"


YES! 7 games is completely meaningless. The fact that you can't comprehend this is honestly astonishing.
 
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