Rittenhouse trial

I think at some point Tamir Rice has to be brought into the conversation

I’ve seen this online quite a bit, and while I understand what they’re saying to an extent, I think it’s flawed logic. There are many, many examples of people not getting shot by the police. They don’t get reported on, because it’s not particularly newsworthy. The Tamil Rice shooting remains a disgusting miscarriage of justice, but it doesn’t mean that the police should be out shooting everyone with a gun. We should celebrate all times that a high profile police encounter doesn’t end in the officer discharging their weapon, because that’s the desired outcome.

All that said, I think there is room for some criticism on the way police officers on the scene and this judge have handled the case. They’re not, as many on the Left have charged, doing anything grossly negligent or incorrect legally. However, in a case that is being broadcast to the nation, the judge is just being a goober. He’s allowed to be a goober, but he’s been one. You can maintain a presumption of innocence and be humane toward a defendant (and should!) without going on silly tangents about zooming in on your iPhone or having the defendant himself draw names from a hat. By being a bit too flippant, he’s taking what should be a rather straight forward non-guilty verdict and making it seem like some sort of conspiratorial farce.
 
I’ve seen this online quite a bit, and while I understand what they’re saying to an extent, I think it’s flawed logic. There are many, many examples of people not getting shot by the police. They don’t get reported on, because it’s not particularly newsworthy. The Tamil Rice shooting remains a disgusting miscarriage of justice, but it doesn’t mean that the police should be out shooting everyone with a gun. We should celebrate all times that a high profile police encounter doesn’t end in the officer discharging their weapon, because that’s the desired outcome.

All that said, I think there is room for some criticism on the way police officers on the scene and this judge have handled the case. They’re not, as many on the Left have charged, doing anything grossly negligent or incorrect legally. However, in a case that is being broadcast to the nation, the judge is just being a goober. He’s allowed to be a goober, but he’s been one. You can maintain a presumption of innocence and be humane toward a defendant (and should!) without going on silly tangents about zooming in on your iPhone or having the defendant himself draw names from a hat. By being a bit too flippant, he’s taking what should be a rather straight forward non-guilty verdict and making it seem like some sort of conspiratorial farce.

Absurd. This trial should have never happened.

The FBI, as usual, withheld evidence that showed Rittenhouse was acting in self defense.

How Rittenhous was there in the first place is a prime example of media malpractice diefying scumbag Jacob Blake.

I'm glad that judge is acting in this way. Rittenhouse shouldn't even be standing trial. He should be given an award for trying to defend his neighborhood.
 
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Yes, its the judges actions that should be criticized.

Are we shocked that this is the opinion of the same person who 'likes the direction of the country now'?
 
Did you survive this traumatic experience of having a piece of cloth on your head again?

Well for lunch I walked around and literally couldn't find a place that didn't require the mask, so I decided to not give them my business and skipped lunch.

For dinner I was meeting a client so couldn't skip. I decided to just not put the mask on and walk in. Everyone in the lobby with the muzzles on as I walked past them to the crowded bar where apparently covid was no longer a threat any more. Managed to never put the muzzle on. Felt bad for all the sheep
 
I've been able to listen to the trial while I work. Comparing what I hear to the media reports summarizing the case has been enlightening. They have a talent for taking soundbites from the judge without the proper context, and for just ignoring a lot of testimony that hurts the prosecution.

The Grosskreutz reporting was a perfect example. I saw multiple headlines that he testified about how afraid he was, when the most notable part of his testimony was his admission that he didn't get shot until he pointed his gun at Rittenhouse and ran at him. That admission destroyed any argument that his injury could be anything but self defense, but most main stream or leftist media consumers never heard about it.
 
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Yes, its the judges actions that should be criticized.

Are we shocked that this is the opinion of the same person who 'likes the direction of the country now'?

Not really a new motion, just laying out everything in writing for the oral motion that was made during the trial. This is the defense covering all their bases in case there is a conviction that needs to be appealed. Just beefs up the record and removes any doubt as to the grounds for the motion.

I still think a mistrial is very possible.
 
I've been able to listen to the trial while I work. Comparing what I hear to the media reports summarizing the case has been enlightening. They have a talent for taking soundbites from the judge without the proper context, and for just ignoring a lot of testimony that hurts the prosecution.

The Grosskreutz reporting was a perfect example. I saw multiple headlines that he testified about how afraid he was, when the most notable part of his testimony was his admission that he didn't get shot until he pointed his gun at Rittenhouse and ran at him. That admission destroyed any argument that his injury could be anything but self defense, but most main stream or leftist media consumers never heard about it.

What I’ve noticed as well.
 
Absurd. This trial should have never happened.

The FBI, as usual, withheld evidence that showed Rittenhouse was acting in self defense.

How Rittenhous was there in the first place is a prime example of media malpractice diefying scumbag Jacob Blake.

I'm glad that judge is acting in this way. Rittenhouse shouldn't even be standing trial. He should be given an award for trying to defend his neighborhood.

No, how Rittenhouse was there in the first place is poor decision making by him and his parents. Giving a minor an AR-15 and letting him pretend to be the police led to him being in a position where he was afraid for his life and led to others dying. If we accept that the police didn’t have a handle on the situation, a child wasn’t the answer.
 
Well for lunch I walked around and literally couldn't find a place that didn't require the mask, so I decided to not give them my business and skipped lunch.

For dinner I was meeting a client so couldn't skip. I decided to just not put the mask on and walk in. Everyone in the lobby with the muzzles on as I walked past them to the crowded bar where apparently covid was no longer a threat any more. Managed to never put the muzzle on. Felt bad for all the sheep

Congratulations on not having to put a piece of cloth over your face when you otherwise thought you might have to. You’re truly the Rosa Parks of this new era.
 
No, how Rittenhouse was there in the first place is poor decision making by him and his parents. Giving a minor an AR-15 and letting him pretend to be the police led to him being in a position where he was afraid for his life and led to others dying. If we accept that the police didn’t have a handle on the situation, a child wasn’t the answer.

The police stood down.

A kid stepped up.
 
No, how Rittenhouse was there in the first place is poor decision making by him and his parents. Giving a minor an AR-15 and letting him pretend to be the police led to him being in a position where he was afraid for his life and led to others dying. If we accept that the police didn’t have a handle on the situation, a child wasn’t the answer.

Ive been told it was peaceful and under control...in this thread. Alluding to nothing burned, destoryed, or vandalized....
 
If the country had more Kyle Rittenhouses then we would be in a better place.

To lay the blame on him is a punk move and only a Democrat is a depraved enough person to do so.

The media lied about Jacob Blake intentionally to cause a ruckus. Globalist masters told them they needed to create unrest so the the bad orange man isn't in office anymore. The police did NOTHING and allowed the community to be destroyed.

Rittenhosue should get a medal.
 
Ive been told it was peaceful and under control...in this thread. Alluding to nothing burned, destoryed, or vandalized....

1) I don’t think I have personally alluded to this particular demonstration being entirely peaceful.

2) I wasn’t actually offering an opinion on the protest, but rather meeting the other side’s argument that these protests were so wild that the police couldn’t handle the situation. Given that, it seems like incredibly irresponsible parenting to condone allowing a minor to be in that situation with a gun.
 
17 year olds with guns help found this country.

They also dueled each other, enslaved people and stole land from its inhabitants. Perhaps we should strive to take the good parts of our founding but not follow their example 100%.
 
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