Russia Collusion Scandal (aka A Leftist fantasy)

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said in a statement Sunday: “If anyone did infiltrate or surveil participants in a presidential campaign for inappropriate purposes, we need to know about it and take appropriate action.”

I have no problem with the IG taking a look at this. Even though what I've read so far indicates that Stefan Halper approached Papadopoulos and Page after those two had interactions with Russians or people (such as Misfud) who appeared to be acting on behalf of the Russians that raised red flags.

I think it would also be appropriate to investigate how Halper's identity was propagated to the media.
 
The whole setting was the passing back and forth of rumors and it just so happens a Clinton ally was in the right place to relay the information (probably helped the origination by the fbI spy) back to the fbi. Sounds like a standard information laundering scheme. Put your own information into the wash and create a scenario where it comes out 'clean'.

Also, if Papa was the onset of the counter intelligence investigation then why was the spy placed beforehand? Under what pretense?
 
https://townhall.com/columnists/tho...s-n2482457?amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

The FBI never bothered to test the computers for a hack. That task was left to CrowdStrike, a private contractor whose CTO and co-founder, Dmitri Alperovitch, is a Russian ex-patriot and a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, a think tank with an anti-Russian agenda.

The Atlantic Council is funded by Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk, a $10 million donor to the Clinton Foundation. The fix was in. CrowdStrike dutifully reported that the Russians were behind the hack.

Lat year The Nation, a progressive publication, got a group of unaffiliated computer experts to test CrowdStrike’s hypothesis and they concluded that the email files were removed from the computer at a speed that makes an off-site download from Russia impossible.

In the inverse logic of Russian collusion, the investigation itself supplies credibility to the collusion narrative. Any attempt to end the investigation is obstruction of justice.
 
thethe said:
The whole setting was the passing back and forth of rumors and it just so happens a Clinton ally was in the right place to relay the information (probably helped the origination by the fbI spy) back to the fbi. Sounds like a standard information laundering scheme. Put your own information into the wash and create a scenario where it comes out 'clean'.

Also, if Papa was the onset of the counter intelligence investigation then why was the spy placed beforehand? Under what pretense?
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You're saying Halper got in touch with Papadopoulos before Mifsud did? I don't think the timeline supports this. But if it did it would be a big deal. What I've seen is Halper got in touch with Papadopoulos in September, well after his initial March meeting with Mifsud and subsequent conversation with the Australian ambassador. What is U.S. intelligence supposed to do with the ambassador of an ally indicates the Russians are trying to infiltrate the campaign of a major political party.
 
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I love the idea that Obama had the DOJ spying on the Trump Campaign for political purposes, discovered some politically damaging links to Russia, then did **** all with that information.
 
No but the information relayed to papa from halper, or speculation really, was in the total population of information pass through to papa. Whether or not it's the only piece is irrelevant to the overall point.

The insistence of the house to include the Genesis of the counter intelligence investigation being the relayed information from the Australian diplomat is now very juicy.
 
mqt said:
I love the idea that Obama had the DOJ spying on the Trump Campaign for political purposes, discovered some politically damaging links to Russia, then did **** all with that information.
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Because the information wasn't real. It was created to cover tracks. The fact, as you noted, that none of this was brought to light is an indictment on the reliability of the story.

This is similar to Simpson stating he didn't think the information put together by Steele should have gone to the fbi.

It's a farse. All of it
 
thethe said:
Because the information wasn't real. It was created to cover tracks. The fact, as you noted, that none of this was brought to light is an indictment on the reliability of the story.

This is similar to Simpson stating he didn't think the information put together by Steele should have gone to the fbi.

It's a farse. All of it
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We can talk past each other all day regarding the validity of the Trump-Russia connection, but it seems absurd to think that if there were political spies watching the Trump campaign, that the Papadopoulos stuff alone wouldn't have found its way to light before the election.
 
mqt said:
We can talk past each other all day regarding the validity of the Trump-Russia connection, but it seems absurd to think that if there were political spies watching the Trump campaign, that the Papadopoulos stuff alone wouldn't have found its way to light before the election.
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Your assessment is therfore the 'spy' doesn't exist?
 
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