SC Cop charged with murder

Julio3000 said:
Yeah. You're taking the "public safety" equation onto the negative side when you shoot in that situation.
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Agreed, Julio.

Part of the problem is people expect Cops to be perfect and that emotions don't play a role. Here we have a guy resisting arrest and then possibly going after the cops taser. Sure, ideally, he just lets the guy go or chases after him and catches up with him at some point. However, this is also an extremely stressful position in which case your life is on the line at all times.(and the cop doesn't know if the perp has a weapon) The cop doesn't know the intention of this guy and he's already shown that he's trying to escape. Desperate people do desperate things. This appears to be a case where the cop let the emotions get to him.

Not defending the cop, but people need to understand these things. The cop also has to be able to restrain his emotions at the point where he is not longer in a defensive/vulnerable position. Once the guy is running away, the cop needs to be able to tone down the emotions/fear and avoid shooting.
 
sturg33 said:
"The cop shouldn't have done what he did but..."
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No, that kid deserved every second of it. I don't think being a teen means you can avoid obeying a police officer and request your mother to be present, does it? Get the **** out the car.

I wonder how much he loves the wannabe thug life now?
 
gilesfan said:
Agreed, Julio.

Part of the problem is people expect Cops to be perfect and that emotions don't play a role. Here we have a guy resisting arrest and then possibly going after the cops taser. Sure, ideally, he just lets the guy go or chases after him and catches up with him at some point. However, this is also an extremely stressful position in which case your life is on the line at all times.(and the cop doesn't know if the perp has a weapon) The cop doesn't know the intention of this guy and he's already shown that he's trying to escape. Desperate people do desperate things. This appears to be a case where the cop let the emotions get to him.

Not defending the cop, but people need to understand these things. The cop also has to be able to restrain his emotions at the point where he is not longer in a defensive/vulnerable position. Once the guy is running away, the cop needs to be able to tone down the emotions/fear and avoid shooting.
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You kinda are
 
"defending" in the sense of understanding why the officer would do this. He still should face the consequences of his actions.
 
gilesfan said:
No, that kid deserved every second of it. I don't think being a teen means you can avoid obeying a police officer and request your mother to be present, does it? Get the **** out the car.

I wonder how much he loves the wannabe thug life now?
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LMAO. That's rich.

And actually if cops question a minor, just like how an adult can request a lawyer, the kid can request their parent be present. If what the cop did was right, they wouldn't have tried to delete the video. It would have been evidence to support their claim.s
 
zitothebrave said:
LMAO. That's rich.

And actually if cops question a minor, just like how an adult can request a lawyer, the kid can request their parent be present. If what the cop did was right, they wouldn't have tried to delete the video. It would have been evidence to support their claim.s
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So if a minor commits a crime, the officer has to wait for the person's parent to show up to detain the minor? If that's the case, which I certainly don't believe, then it doesn't make any sense.

Either way, the officer has the right to ask each passenger to get out of the car and the dude refused to do so. He doesn't get to wait for his Mom to show up toget out of the car. Furthermore, he was tased due to his resisting arrest and when they got him out of the car, they determined why he refused to get out of the car and it was bc he had drugs on him.

The girl is lucky that she got off, bc they could have also charged her and taken her car.
 
I never said to detain. I said to question.

He should have gotten out of the car and refused to talk or be searched. Resisting arrest shouldn't lead to someone getting peppersprayed and their ass beat. Cops need to be trained better if that is what they're trained.
 
zitothebrave said:
I never said to detain. I said to question.

He should have gotten out of the car and refused to talk or be searched. Resisting arrest shouldn't lead to someone getting peppersprayed and their ass beat. Cops need to be trained better if that is what they're trained.
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I guess they should just wait it out and let him sit in the car for resisting arrests for hours.

Ass beat? That's a little rich.
 
Never said they should wait it out. But Ithink there are better ways to handle that. For starters, they should you know mirandize him
 
zitothebrave said:
LMAO. That's rich.

And actually if cops question a minor, just like how an adult can request a lawyer, the kid can request their parent be present. If what the cop did was right, they wouldn't have tried to delete the video. It would have been evidence to support their claim.s
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All of these assholes who get beat, tazed, pepper sprayed, etc by cops have one thing in common, they refuse to cooperate with the cops! If an officer tells you to get out of your car, gtfo of your car! How difficult is that? Sure, you might not have done anything wrong, but you saying that doesn't make it true, and why should the cop believe you?
Why does big bad gangsta need his mommy anyway? They weren't arresting him, or questioning him at the police station.
When one acts like an guilty asshole, guess what, you get treated like one!

Oh, and I'm not sure about iphones, but on android phones, there's no recycle bin, when you delete something it's gone. Sure you might be able to recover it if it hasn't been overwritten, but sounds fishy to me. Why didn't they include video of the cop picking up the phone?
 
zitothebrave said:
Never said they should wait it out. But Ithink there are better ways to handle that. For starters, they should you know mirandize him
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A) You don't know if he was or wasn't; or when he was mirandized.

B) I doubt you are knowledgeable enough to know if he needed to be read his Miranda rights or not
 
gilesfan said:
A) You don't know if he was or wasn't; or when he was mirandized.

B) I doubt you are knowledgeable enough to know if he needed to be read his Miranda rights or not
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IF he's being put under arrest for resisting arrest, you're damn sure he needs to be read his miranda rights.
 
Krgrecw said:
So you have no problems with deadbeat dads who don't pay up, don't show up for court and have a felony assault on thier record?

If a guy like that was married or did that crap to your sister, you'd be calling him a piece of **** too. Don't lie
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what? when did I say that? and what the FVCK does that have to do with the fact that this POS cop murdered someone? I don't think people should be shot 8 times in the back for that stuff, **** no.

despite the fact that he may have been a deadbeat, that does not, for one second, excuse the fact that he was murdered AND the cop tried to plant **** on him. the fact that you're attacking the DEAD MAN'S character over the MURDEROUS COP'S is ****ing disturbing and unfortunately too typical for someone like yourself. you should be embarrassed but I'm afraid you're too ignorant. you're not upset for a second that a man was shot and the cop tried to plant his a weapon on him. you have NO comment on that. that isn't a big deal. but this guy not paying child support?!?!? WELL! let's talk about that. no. **** you.
 
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Terrible. I support law enforcement, but they must be held to strict standards where safety is concerned. This particular cop should be treated like a murderer and put away for life. 8 shots for a fat guy you just didn't feel like running down? That makes me sick.
 
Krgrecw said:
So you have no problems with deadbeat dads who don't pay up, don't show up for court and have a felony assault on thier record?

If a guy like that was married or did that crap to your sister, you'd be calling him a piece of **** too. Don't lie
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But you don't know that he was a dead beat dad. You're making a pretty big assumption and tearing down a dead man.

And besides that, him being a POS or not has absolutely ZERO relevance to this story. The only POS you should concern yourself with is the POS cop.
 
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