Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

Tapate50 said:
Thats the rub with AI queries.

There is no real data in there. Its an aggregator of online opinion. No hard data is presented. BL uses it all the time and theres no why in there.
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I’ve posted plenty of actual studies with actual data, and thethe replies with his dismissive response in a timespan so short that it’s impossible he could’ve even clicked on the link. He already has his stock response primed and ready. It doesn’t matter what data was in that link or what conclusions the authors drew.
 
acesfull86 said:
I’ve posted plenty of actual studies with actual data, and thethe replies with his dismissive response in a timespan so short that it’s impossible he could’ve even clicked on the link. He already has his stock response primed and ready. It doesn’t matter what data was in that link or what conclusions the authors drew.
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Data like prices on over a billion products?
 
thethe said:
Which car?

What is the increase on soda from a year ago?

Please list the products and we can go down 1 by 1

I can counter all this with an index that tracks billions of prices and says no material inflation of goods.
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The Lexus TX im about to buy is $69k and last year it was $62K.

A 24 pack of soda costs about $13 today. It used to be $7-8.

Im not gonna bother posting 25 random Walmart grocery orders
 
thethe said:
I’ve posted plenty of actual studies with actual data, and thethe replies with his dismissive response in a timespan so short that it’s impossible he could’ve even clicked on the link. He already has his stock response primed and ready. It doesn’t matter what data was in that link or what conclusions the authors drew.
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I understand, and I haven't read all the links either.

I don't think any conclusions can be made yet... it wasn't going to be perfect. But I'm not sure data from 1950 applies here anymore.

It will reset the tables in the long term. I don't think the messaging has been great.
 
sturg33 said:
The Lexus TX im about to buy is $69k and last year it was $62K.

A 24 pack of soda costs about $13 today. It used to be $7-8.

Im not gonna bother posting 25 random Walmart grocery orders
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Here is some more AI slop:

In January 2025, the average price for a 24-pack of name-brand soda cans in the U.S. generally ranged from $13 to over $20, depending on the retailer, brand, and promotions. Some stores might have offered sales for as low as $10.99 for a 24-pack.
Specific price examples for major brands like Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and Dr Pepper at that time included:
 
sturg33 said:
The Lexus TX im about to buy is $69k and last year it was $62K.

A 24 pack of soda costs about $13 today. It used to be $7-8.

Im not gonna bother posting 25 random Walmart grocery orders
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We got the GX built and it was 72 sticker. I thought it was reasonable enough.

Nice car, just not big enough. It went back.
 
sturg33 said:
The Lexus TX im about to buy is $69k and last year it was $62K.

A 24 pack of soda costs about $13 today. It used to be $7-8.

Im not gonna bother posting 25 random Walmart grocery orders
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Base model for Lexus TX was 57,090 - What trims are you getting? Base package stayed the same from Jan 25
 
sturg33 said:
Lol what are we even doing here

Im saying tariffs raise prices. Which you say they dont, but also say obviously they do?
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No - You've said the impact of tariffs gets passed to consumers in totality or materially all of it.

I've said an immaterial portion will be borne by the consumer.

I was right.
 
thethe said:
No - You've said the impact of tariffs gets passed to consumers in totality or materially all of it.

I've said an immaterial portion will be borne by the consumer.

I was right.
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All analysis that has been done suggest over $1k in costs to families.

You reject that analysis, but havent offered an alternative
 
sturg33 said:
All analysis that has been done suggest over $1k in costs to families.

You reject that analysis, but havent offered an alternative
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I have offered an alternative - A price index that uses billions of real price points.

What better source can be leveraged?
 
thethe said:
Tell me about it - About to get the GLA fully loaded.

But again, base package did not go up according to AI for the lexus. Please provide something that shows the opposite.
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The opposite is I have been personally tracking this car since last year and in mid 2024 the cost at my local dealership was $62k. That was the 2025 version instead of the 2026 version, but I dont see any material feature upgrade to justify that hike

So again, im telling you what my own eyes are seeing. Im also offering AI analysis. And aces has offered the direct studies.

You just reject all of it
 
sturg33 said:
The opposite is I have been personally tracking this car since last year and in mid 2024 the cost at my local dealership was $62k. That was the 2025 version instead of the 2026 version, but I dont see any material feature upgrade to justify that hike

So again, im telling you what my own eyes are seeing. Im also offering AI analysis. And aces has offered the direct studies.

You just reject all of it
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Stated prices on the base package did not change on the Lexus Tx - This is straight from Lexus.

Dealerships can get whatever price a consumer is willing to pay.

What more do you want?
 
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