Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

thethe said:
Zito - if a random person shoots their gun at a police officer and they run away do the police officers chase them or let them go?
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zitothebrave said:
I am friends with a few cops. Not a single one of them would say what you're saying.
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My guess is that you are not:

It is standard practice and legally justified for a police officer to take action, including using force, to stop a person who is trying to hit them with a car [1].
When a driver attempts to strike a police officer with a vehicle, it is considered the use of deadly force by the driver. In response, an officer is authorized to use proportional force, including deadly force if necessary, to protect themselves and others from serious bodily harm or death [1].
 
thethe said:
Once she accelerates towards the officers she becomes a risk to the whole community and it’s their obligation to stop her.

Your expectation of what an officer should do in a life or death situation is to say the least - retarded.
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I’ve been open about the fact that think the shooting was more justifiable than others are willing to accept, but this is silly. There’s no evidence to suggest that she intended to run over an officer, and certainly no evidence that she would do so to others. While it’s reasonably fair to suggest the officer reached out of fear for his safety, he certainly was under no legal or moral obligation to shoot her.
 
mqt said:
I’ve been open about the fact that think the shooting was more justifiable than others are willing to accept, but this is silly. There’s no evidence to suggest that she intended to run over an officer, and certainly no evidence that she would do so to others. While it’s reasonably fair to suggest the officer reached out of fear for his safety, he certainly was under no legal or moral obligation to shoot her.
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There is literally video of her accelerating into a human being
 
mqt said:
I’ve been open about the fact that think the shooting was more justifiable than others are willing to accept, but this is silly. There’s no evidence to suggest that she intended to run over an officer, and certainly no evidence that she would do so to others. While it’s reasonably fair to suggest the officer reached out of fear for his safety, he certainly was under no legal or moral obligation to shoot her.
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The video is clear - She accelerates as the wheels are directed at the officer.

At that point she is no different than a person waiving a gun int he middle of the street shooting at people. The police are obligated to stop her with whatever force they deem necessary.
 
mqt said:
Do we know if she was looking at him rather than the officer to her side she appeared to be fleeing from?
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The tires were aimed at the officer and she accelerated.

Now if ou want to tell me as a woman she is a bad driver and can't handle stressful situtations then I might have more sympathy.
 
thethe said:
How does it work then?

Because when the video is analyzed what will be determined is the car was pointed directly at the officer and this woman hit the gas.
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We cannot just look at the direction of the car as irrefutable proof when it was also pointed toward her exit route. It doesn’t excuse her actions, but we cannot see where she was looking or prove anything definitively. To suggest she was doing a cold-blooded murder is absolutely speculating.
 
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