Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

sturg33 said:
it's really really bizarre that there are people complaining about government overreach after living under the Biden/Harris regime and pulling the lever for them
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and which Biden policy was rounding up random people off of their jobs sending the to god knows where ?
my lord
 
sturg33 said:
which Trump policy is doing that? or do you mean they are arresting criminals?
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I don’t know how to respond if you’re taking the government faithfully at its word that the only migrants being sent to third-party countries and even possibly imprisoned there at our behest is a criminal in the sense that they’ve done more than illegally enter our country. The administration has already done far more than enough to lose that trust.
 
We could try having the philosophical discussions about the unchecked growth of the executive. It would actually serve as a solution for the problems the “no kings” protests rightly called out.

Last time we tried that though it didn’t go very far. It was dismissed as a fake appeal to the Constitution (Iran strikes) or as an attack on the welfare state (withholding Harvard funding.

If all other discussions ultimately devolve into “if you didn’t vote for X, then you implicitly support Y”, that’s too bad.
 
acesfull86 said:
If calling someone an academic is considered name calling, I guess sturg has officially won, lol

(Btw, believe you called us a “pack of fools” only a couple of posts ago…)
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well, ignoring and actively protesting government funded public health policies.

Had they been implemented as a left handed means to lord over the populace i would agree.
But, uneducated in the field opinions, contrary to those held by people that have spent their lives working and researching the data
yeah. Kinda like one sticking ones finger in the fan from where I sit.
As a child that is understandable . As an adult, well ... the word that comes to mind is ****
 
I'm in favor of a strong executive that will use pandemics to quash our liberties. I'm kinda surprised to see church services have resumed. I didn't realize that. We'll have to do better next time.
 
chop2chip said:
If all other discussions ultimately devolve into “if you didn’t vote for X, then you implicitly support Y”, that’s too bad.
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I as do many also hold Ralph Nader responsible for the Iraq War.
My understanding is today, Mr. Nader shares my view

It is a real thing in an A or B discussion.
 
chop2chip said:
Guerrilla posting

Pot shots and deflect
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It's a response to a claim that religious liberty was suppressed during the pandemic. I admit my response is silly. But no more silly than the claim. I won't go into animal slaughter in Australia during the pandemic. That would be below even my admittedly low standards.
 
nsacpi said:
It's a direct response to a claim that religious liberty was suppressed during the pandemic. I admit my response is silly. But no more silly than the claim. I won't go into animal slaughter in Australia during the pandemic. That would be below even my admittedly low standards.
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Japanese America s are no longer in internment camps either. It doesn’t mean their rights weren’t violated at the time for the “greater good”

It’s a slippery slope our incompetent President is actively min maxing.
 
chop2chip said:
Japanese America s are no longer in internment camps either. It doesn’t mean their rights weren’t violated at the time for the “greater good”

It’s a slippery slope our incompetent President is actively min maxing.
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It's an interesting parallel you are attempting there. It's just bizarre to me that a response to a public health emergency that killed millions and that has not led to any lasting diminution to liberty is being cited as the thing is causing what Trump is doing. Your attempt to blame his persecution of Harvard on the welfare state was slightly better. Slightly doing a lot of work there.
 
nsacpi said:
It's an interesting parallel you are attempting there. It's just bizarre to me that a response to a public health emergency that killed millions and that has not led to any lasting diminution to liberty is being cited as the thing is causing what Trump is doing. Your attempt to blame his persecution of Harvard on the welfare state was slightly better. Slightly doing a lot of work there.
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Covid killed an order of magnitude more Chinese than Americans. Xi’s response to a public health emergency was to weld people in their homes. If you can draw the line in the sand where tyranny starts and stops, more power to you. It’s always done in the name of emergency — notice how all of Trump’s illegal actions are justified by declared emergencies.
 
I guess the distinction between actual for real emergencies and fake emergencies is as elusive for y'all as actual for real attacks on our rights versus fake ones.
 
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