Those women are dipshits. But it’s not good governance to respond by doing lazy edgelord comedy online.
Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread
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For someone who was so concerned with the response to COVID, I’d think you might understand the harm that can be done by a combative HHS department. They’re just doing the “trust us, we know better” bit but instead of decades of medical consensus they’ve just started picking a bunch of less-supported medicine and science and are aggressively messaging about how right they are about it.
This Administration and its supporters have this nasty habit of appealing to authority just as much as they (correctly) accuse the establishment of doing, but their authority is instead often random bullshit.
This Administration and its supporters have this nasty habit of appealing to authority just as much as they (correctly) accuse the establishment of doing, but their authority is instead often random bullshit.
But what you’re describing is a combination of two things:
1) Social policy and activism masquerading as public health policy.
2) The chaotic response to a unique and perplexing virus.
But I’m not actually here to argue the merits of the experts. I think based on the whole we live much, much longer and don’t die of or become permanently crippled by every disease and injury imaginable thing suggests they’ve gotten it at least *vaguely* right in a lot of respects, but I have plenty of criticisms of my own and I’m not trying to appeal to their authority here. What I’m suggesting is that replacing that authority with new experts that mostly just have less experience and evidence to support their new conclusions, and then they’re using the megaphone of the White House to do exactly what the government has always done and propagandize us.
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Yes - our institutions used to mean something. Acedmia used to mean something.
They don't anymore. the "chaotic response" to a perplexing virus doesn't explain "racism is a bigger public health threat"
You can point a straight line to the Obama admin. Our government and experts can no longer be trusted on literally anything. From public health to "white supremacy is the biggest public threat"
it's over. Y'all blew it. It's your fault
We're on our own now
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Hey "51 former intelligence experts said the hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinfo!"
Cool. We no longer can trust those intelligence experts, then
Same as the rest of em
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When scientists told us the world will be over in 2030 unless we pass the green new deal?
Well guess what, nobody listens to scientists anymore
Its not our fault. Its the scientists fault
You want to be a retard to in order to shill for a political position? Cool. Nobody with a brain trusts you anymore
(Leftists still trust them)
Well guess what, nobody listens to scientists anymore
Its not our fault. Its the scientists fault
You want to be a retard to in order to shill for a political position? Cool. Nobody with a brain trusts you anymore
(Leftists still trust them)
What is the argument against this? It’s painfully transparent that the expert class became infected with politics and only those that swore allegiance to the global left were able to maintain “prominence”.
The argument against this is that people like Peter Navarro and RFK Jr. are presenting little or poor evidence to support their new conclusions while insisting that they know better and Trump is just right about everything. The government is still appealing to their authority, but that authority is basically just smoke and mirrors and the cult of Donald Trump’s big brain.
Sure, that’s a problem. But those studies aren’t inherently better just because they’re less prominent. What the government and the cult is doing is elevating these studies above all the other studies that say different or conflicting things and saying *this* is the study to use to inform your decisions and anybody who disagrees is in the pocket of Big Pharma or a victim of the woke mind virus or has TDS. That’s my issue. I don’t give a damn if you listen to the consensus or not. I’m just saying that a study or idea not conforming to the consensus is not magically better, and it’s pathetic that the government is pushing that narrative.
That’s decidedly not the tone being taken by Trump and his Administration and you damn well know it. They didn’t just “make people aware” of this study and allow people to come to their own conclusions. They scheduled a press conference where the President treated it as absolute fact and have been on an aggressive messaging campaign promoting their new autism treatment while demonizing vaccines and Tylenol. They are posting memes responding to social media posts from 2017 as a sign of how right they are despite it having nothing to do with the topic at hand. They do this for everything. Tariffs aren’t successful? Look at this incredible revenue!
This is a political movement that basically flows from the overarching idea that Donald Trump alone is a genius that knows the real truth and is on some divine mission to save us from the fake truth.
My issue isn’t the skepticism of the experts. Healthy skepticism is good, particularly when there’s so much money involved. But encouraging others to believe in a new consensus grounded in even less reality isn’t a solution and that’s been the approach here. A network of social media influencers is being paid to provide a new consensus for claims that aren’t backed by more through science or medicine.