Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

sturg33 said:
I think it's appropriate to call antifa a terrorist org. And any group or individual donating to a terrorist org should face whatever the consequences of donating to a terrorist org calls for

I also agree, if we just started arresting the actual participants, and giving them maximum sentences, people would stop doing it
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This is pretty much where I’m at. The issue is that, as thethe said, it’s hard to trace the money of the people who have bought the politicians. I remember when MSNBC was outraged at Obama for not giving out “street money” in Philly for his first campaign. I thought they were crazy so I looked it up. Yeah, it’s totally legal to just give out stacks of cash to help turn voters out. Kamala spent $25m in PA that way. Campaign gives the local party office the cash, the party supposedly uses it to pay for gas and drivers etc. Pure, legal, grift. And untraceable.
 
mqt said:
While taking their resources and subjugating the Indian people to immense discrimination and violence. While I think it’s fair to use caution when moralizing over colonialism, there’s really no question whatsoever that the side doing the colonizing gains the advantage.
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As someone who spent the first 10 years of my life as a British colonial subject I can confirm this.
 
acesfull86 said:
I’ve seen some of the losers calling themselves antifa on college campuses. I’m not shredding the Constitution to extinguish a group that could be taken down by a single gluten muffin.
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The Spartacus Youth League otoh are a much tougher outfit.
 
mqt said:
While taking their resources and subjugating the Indian people to immense discrimination and violence. While I think it’s fair to use caution when moralizing over colonialism, there’s really no question whatsoever that the side doing the colonizing gains the advantage.
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A short term advantage for certain. I think the long term benefits of the colonized dwarf any short term gains made by the colonizer. It’s pretty easy to see that none of the European powers are better off now than if they had never competed for colonies. I don’t think that’s true of the former colonies.
 
mqt said:
Yeah, you just choose to be less concerned by it.
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No one actually has real value in the world. The other was just a money drop for corruption.

If Kushner never met Ivanka billionaires would still throw their money at him. If Hunter wasn’t a Biden (probably would be an upstanding citizen without such a dead beat dad but that’s besides the point) he’d be in a gutter broke and dead.

That’s the difference r
 
Jaw said:
This is pretty much where I’m at. The issue is that, as thethe said, it’s hard to trace the money of the people who have bought the politicians. I remember when MSNBC was outraged at Obama for not giving out “street money” in Philly for his first campaign. I thought they were crazy so I looked it up. Yeah, it’s totally legal to just give out stacks of cash to help turn voters out. Kamala spent $25m in PA that way. Campaign gives the local party office the cash, the party supposedly uses it to pay for gas and drivers etc. Pure, legal, grift. And untraceable.
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To be fair, this problem is so broadly prevalent across the board that I’m not even sure you can call it a both sides issue, because it would forget all the other sides doing it.

Where I think the big issue here is that there’s simply a difference between funding social causes/activism and funding crime, and (especially legally) the right is ignoring that difference in a way they cannot support with any actual evidence. So in effect, what’s being suggested here is we need to go after leftist benefactors for shadowy organizations funneling money to who knows where, but oil billionaires or other conservatives in the Larry Ellison or Koch Brothers mold are fine and it’s insane to suggest otherwise.
 
mqt said:
While taking their resources and subjugating the Indian people to immense discrimination and violence. While I think it’s fair to use caution when moralizing over colonialism, there’s really no question whatsoever that the side doing the colonizing gains the advantage.
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The remaining value they left in structure was invaluable. India would be an even worse shithole today if not for the Brits
 
mqt said:
To be fair, this problem is so broadly prevalent across the board that I’m not even sure you can call it a both sides issue, because it would forget all the other sides doing it.

Where I think the big issue here is that there’s simply a difference between funding social causes/activism and funding crime, and (especially legally) the right is ignoring that difference in a way they cannot support with any actual evidence. So in effect, what’s being suggested here is we need to go after leftist benefactors for shadowy organizations funneling money to who knows where, but oil billionaires or other conservatives in the Larry Ellison or Koch Brothers mold are fine and it’s insane to suggest otherwise.
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Can you show me the rights equivalent to the 2020 riots?
 
Jaw said:
A short term advantage for certain. I think the long term benefits of the colonized dwarf any short term gains made by the colonizer. It’s pretty easy to see that none of the European powers are better off now than if they had never competed for colonies. I don’t think that’s true of the former colonies.
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Considering colonialism included large scale slavery and indentured servitude not to mention huge numbers of deaths via exposure to novel pathogens it is unlikely the balance has been a positive one for the subject peoples.

The economic benefits for the colonial powers were enormous. A number of them christened their colonial epoch a "golden age." The term is no longer fashionable because they have come to a better understanding of the foundations of their golden ages.

Cities like London and Amsterdam continue to benefit hugely from the culinary and other contributions of people who come from their former colonies, a form of appropriation I view as much more palatable. Dutch food (pastries excepted) is pretty bad. Thank God for the Surinamese and Indonesian contributions to their food culture.

As for traditional English food, the less said the better. London is now a phenomenal foodie city thanks in large part to its immigrant population.

It is also not widely recognized how large a contribution soldiers from their colonies made to Great Britain's fight for survival during World War II. Two of my uncles served in their armed forces. The Battle of Britain, which saved the country, featured quite a few brown skinned pilots.
 
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mqt said:
lol, you can’t ever stop at normal.
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I can’t help it I see these things sooner than you all. Go back and check the tape. I’ve been talking about Soros and antifa for a decade. I remember being in cologne for work in 2017 and following an antifa protest to see what they were about.
 
thethe said:
The remaining value they left in structure was invaluable. India would be an even worse shithole today if not for the Brits
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It’s no surprise you’ve taken to Socialism under Trump if you think capital is that unimportant.
 
thethe said:
Ah the one with fbi agitators.

Maybe we can compare the damages caused. Do you want to do that or let’s ignore you tried to compare?
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The comparison was just to be cheeky, the real point is that you have no evidence of any violence being funded by these shadowy organizations.
 
mqt said:
The comparison was just to be cheeky, the real point is that you have no evidence of any violence being funded by these shadowy organizations.
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I had no evidence that the Hussein regime lied about Russian collusion. I had no evidence that the democrats impeached Trump to hide Biden’s crimes.

Maybe I have an idea how to read things.
 
thethe said:
I had no evidence that the Hussein regime lied about Russian collusion. I had no evidence that the democrats impeached Trump to hide Biden’s crimes.

Maybe I have an idea how to read things.
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You mean that the moment someone presents any claim that backs up your read on things, you accept that due to confirmation bias?
 
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