Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread
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acesfull86
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How much native white people fraud do we need to accept so thethe can feel good about himself?
Don’t need to accept any of it. But we are importing fraud for some odd reason that you’re comfortable with.
Can we talk about the rate of fraud amongst the populations? What should that tell us?
But this response is that of a social leftist. Once you see it you can’t unsee it.
nsacpi
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actually no...you should read up on how Columbus Day got started...Italians have been subjected to all sorts of demonization and even violence over the decades....what is happening now to other groups has a history that goes back to anti-Italian and anti-Irish riots in this country...and of course Italians do have this colorful history with various mafia and other crime rings (with the overwhelming majority of Italians never having any involvement in such thangs)
so I would say the demonization of today's immigrant groups is mostly history repeating itself...and the point about Dean Martin is an excellent one
That’s not the point. The “new” immigrants despise the country and want it radically changed.
I’d be happy accepting a bunch of people from Japan and SK. They’d respect us and not demand we assimilate to their culture.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Yeah. I've presented data in multiple threads. It is a well researched topic. Immigration is overwhelmingly beneficial to the country. The highlight is the exceptional performance and upward mobility of children of immigrants. This pattern holds over long periods of time and across races and ethnicities. I've put up a thread looking in particular at black immigrants. The recent waves of black immigrants and their American-born children have done extremely well.
The Dean Martin discussion highlights how people of previously demonized ethnicities (people who despise our culture in your words) have made massive contributions to this country.
I've also put up a thread titled culture. No one wants to touch that one. I'm not surprised. But I think Vivek made some very good points. Which unfortunately for him will likely not turn out to his political advantage.
acesfull86
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I think every individual should be judged on his own merits, not assigned a particular set of views. And we should have a social safety net lean enough that makes it impossible for someone to come here intending to live off the government tit. There are no benefits to the proposition you describe, but there are multiple ways to address it.
Yes the “studies”. Ignore your eyes and the data of European nations that are accurately tracking race and country of origin.
Before this fraud case in MN blew up you would have sworn Somalians were an overwhelming positive to Minnesota.
acesfull86
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Now MAGA is going to go back to pretending it's not anti-immigration, just anti illegal-immigration.
sturg33
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In an ideal world we would personally interview and background check every single immigrant with immense scrutiny, but we dont do that and I frankly think its not possible to do that with the scale of immigration we face.
If 80% of Somalian require welfare to survive here, im comfortable forgoing the potential upside of the other 20%
At some point we need to start using data to make decisions. A car insurance company charges men more than women because the data tell them that is their biggest risk. What would be optimal is if they made a custom policy for every single driver based on their driving skill, but thats not possible to do.
If we're unwilling to do that, then welfare should not be available to any non citizen. No free schools or Healthcare. But our society isn't willing to do that either. So how do we solve this. Because its not sustainable that other countries simply raiding the tax payer endlessly
It’s so wide scale this is the only way it’s possible.
acesfull86
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That's bullshit
acesfull86
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The part where you're going to pretend you're for any sort of immigration...the metrics by which you evaluate this country are solely based on the relative health of native born citizens (preferably white).
BTW, the Italian's were viewed as "incompatible" in their day.
I’m for high value immigration from highly compatible societies. That would also include Japan and SK for me. I don’t want poor white peoples either unless they have IQ upwards of 140
We can slowly assimilate lots of people that way.