Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
You make the US analogous an Ivy League school. Anyone who wants to come has to spell out why they should be allowed to, and the acceptance rate is very small.
Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread
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acesfull86
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No worries …they weren’t meant to be an inquisition … that was literally just me working through the idea in real time
sturg33
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I dont really know our process today be honest.
Obviously close the border makes sense. Everyone must apply
I would probably look at last 20 years of data of I ur current immigration data to start. Immigrants from Japan, Spain, UK, Somalia, etc etc
What are the results?
I would want at least 80/20 producer/taker ratio.
If we aren't getting that, shut it down from a country perspective.
From there, create an exception process for the ballers from Nigeria. Let them apply. Create a rigorous test and interview process. If good, bring them in
Immigrants from the banned countries should be no less than 5% of total Immigrants. Only the best of best
Tapate50
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you cannot come to another conclusion. there is too much evidence to support the pro criminal manifesto.
Fwiw, I have zero respect for someones votes who voluntarily put other tax paying citizens at risk over some virtue signaling.
Its wrong
Or the audience comprised largely of Trump supporters watching Trump speak enjoyed their Trump speech. I bet approval is high at his rallies too.
Why wouldn’t she be upset to live in a Communist hellscape?
sturg33
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Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
I say it all the time, Trump is a Blue Dog Democrat from 20 years ago.
Explain the policy position overlaps of Donald Trump in 2026 and Heath Shuler during his time in Congress.
Heath Shuler, a Blue Dog Democrat who served in Congress from 2007 to 2013, held several moderate-to-conservative positions that align with aspects of Donald Trump’s stances, particularly as expressed during his 2024 campaign and implemented in his second presidency starting in 2025. While their overall ideologies differ—Shuler was a centrist Democrat focused on “mountain values” and fiscal restraint, and Trump emphasizes nationalist “America First” policies—their overlaps center on social conservatism, gun rights, healthcare opposition, trade protectionism, and fiscal discipline. Below, I’ll outline the key areas of alignment based on their recorded positions and actions.
Abortion
Both have taken pro-life stances with similar exceptions. Shuler opposed abortion rights, co-sponsoring the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act in 2011, which included allowances for forcible rape and incest, and he supported amendments prohibiting federal funds for abortions. 0 Trump identifies as pro-life, opposing abortion except in cases of rape, incest, and threats to the mother’s health; he credits his Supreme Court appointments for overturning Roe v. Wade in 2022, shifting it to a states’ rights issue, and has stated he would not sign a federal ban. 6 This shared opposition to broad abortion access, with limited exceptions, reflects a conservative overlap on reproductive rights.
Gun Rights
Shuler and Trump both strongly support Second Amendment protections. Shuler was a vocal advocate for gun rights, stating in 2011 after a congressional shooting that he would arm himself more often and encouraged his staff to obtain carry permits. 0 Trump has consistently opposed gun control measures like assault weapons bans, universal background checks, and high-capacity magazine limits; he endorses the NRA, supports nationwide concealed carry reciprocity, and has advocated arming teachers to prevent school shootings. 6 Their pro-gun positions align in prioritizing individual rights and minimal restrictions.
Healthcare (Opposition to the Affordable Care Act)
A notable convergence is their resistance to the Affordable Care Act (ACA, or Obamacare). Shuler voted against the ACA in 2009 and against its repeal in 2011, but he criticized the law and supported anti-abortion amendments within it. 0 Trump has long sought to repeal and replace the ACA, undermining it through executive actions in his first term (e.g., cutting funding and ending cost-sharing payments) and reiterating repeal intentions in 2024 statements, though without a full replacement plan. 6 This shared skepticism toward expansive federal healthcare reform highlights a mutual preference for limited government involvement.
Trade Protectionism
Both have critiqued free trade agreements and favored policies protecting American workers. Shuler campaigned in 2006 against the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), accusing opponents of enabling job losses. 0 Trump has pursued aggressive protectionism, withdrawing from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, renegotiating NAFTA into the USMCA, and imposing widespread tariffs on imports (e.g., on steel, aluminum, and cars), including global tariffs announced in 2025 to boost domestic manufacturing. 6 Their stances overlap in prioritizing U.S. economic interests over multilateral trade deals.
Fiscal Policy and Economic Conservatism
Shuler and Trump both emphasize fiscal restraint and deficit reduction, though Trump’s record includes significant debt increases. As a Blue Dog, Shuler voted against the 2008 bailout, the 2009 stimulus, and led bipartisan efforts for deeper deficit cuts in 2011, supporting the Cut, Cap, and Balance Act. 0 Trump advocates tax cuts (e.g., extending the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act), deregulation, and promises no cuts to Social Security or Medicare while criticizing deficit spending; he has pledged to reduce government waste and promote energy independence to bolster the economy. 6 This alignment reflects a shared focus on curbing federal spending and promoting pro-business policies.
These overlaps largely stem from Shuler’s conservative Democratic leanings within the Blue Dog Coalition and Trump’s populist Republicanism. However, divergences exist elsewhere—for instance, on environmental policy (Shuler supported cap-and-trade, while Trump denies climate change and favors fossil fuels) and foreign affairs (Shuler backed specific international allies, contrasted with Trump’s isolationist “America First” approach). Trump’s positions in 2026 remain consistent with his 2024 campaign, with ongoing implementation in his second term, such as expanded tariffs and executive orders on immigration and social issues. 2
sturg33
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Or... why did Biden change his stance? Why did Schumer? Why did Clinton? Why did Pelosi?
All on record not 15 years ago supporting the Trump agenda. Now they are risking everything to protect illegals.
Outside of a massive power grab (my opinion) why did they change?
Perhaps we have a PHD who can weigh in at his 20% threshold